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it doesnt effect weight

I have chronic kidney disease and low blood pressure & blood clots in both lungs for 3 years..I am 54 years old. I am on the Fall Challenge ,Firecrackers Team,on P.S.T. I have passed my 5% weight loss goal.My exercise plan is 2400 minutes a month.I do walking, ride the bike at the gym 65 minutes, 3 times a week & go ice skating for 90 minutes 2 times a week for people over 50. My name is Linda.


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screws up your recovery from the day and it messes with your memory and more. Google it.

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sleep is one of my primary indicators of whether I eat the way I would like or not. When i am tired I am much more likely to make bad choices and that can lead to a spiral for me

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JERF I've recently read about the hormones GHRELIN and LEPTIN. Ghrelin increases our appetite and Leptin reduces appetite. When we don't get enough sleep, those hormones get out of whack. So! There is a scientific reason for lack of sleep causing weight gain.
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Your brain needs sleep to refuel. If you don't get enough sleep it draws from other energy stores...ie food! Late nights and all-nighters wreak havoc on your system and you won't be able to stop eating those high calorie foods just to stay awake. Better to get a good night's sleep!



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Adequate sleep has a huge effect on overall health, including weight, energy level during the day, headaches, balance, appetite, even, some studies suggest, the premature aging of the brain.
My doc said poor sleep is one of the number one complaint of so many of her patients, esp. women.
I have suffered since early menopause over 20 years ago but esp. since developing bursitis in both hips.
All the usual sleep hygiene rules help (reduce caffeine, regular bedtime, quiet dark room...) and for years melatonin helped.
Now I am on zolpidem (been for several years with no ill effects) but I wanted to share what has been almost a miracle for me..
We moved recently and bought a NEW MATTRESS!
Now I am sleeping 8-9 hours every single night with very few awakenings!
We did not spend a lot ($1200) and chose a firm one with a cushy top, not a pillow top so it is flipp-able.
I am in heaven!
I wake up most mornings less stiff, less cranky and ready to go for my busy day!
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If I sleep throughout the night I'm not up eating - plain and simple


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I have found when I’m tired for a few days then have a great sleep this tends to bust plateaus. Think my body just needs rest to heal.

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When you are sleep deprived you don't want to do anything.



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My understanding is that the regular shortage of sleep negatively affects (weakens) the immune system.

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All other things being equal (cue ghrelins, cortisol, etc.), not enough sleep means groggy which means reduced decision-making ability. So poor food choices more possibly ensue.

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I've read articles saying that we don't have proper sleeping habits -- unless you DON'T get eight hours of sleep! This phenomenon primarily started when lamps were commonplace, pushing our waking habits into the night.

"Research suggests that people would naturally sleep twice a day, if allowed. In warmer climates, people historically took mid-day naps, while those in colder climates often slept twice a night with time awake between. Industrialization required us to squeeze our sleep into one stretch to accommodate long work days. People often wake for a while at night, and these “vigils” were used for reflection, creative pursuits, and intimate conversation."

https://parade.com/270199/parade/do-you-really-need-8-hours-of-sleep-common-sleep-myths-busted/
https://www.statnews.com/2016/02/22/adults-need-8-hours-sleep/

I recently read an article saying that you can lose weight when you eat when you're (gasp) hungry. I'm fine with sleeping when I'm (wait for it...) *sleepy*!!!

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I've read several times that getting enough sleep will help with weight loss because it gives the body time to repair itself

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Also, weight affects my sleep in that I start to snore when I'm too heavy. I'm snoring now. The very bad thing is that any snoring, even my own, wakes me up. So, one or two snores in, I wake up and get irrationally irritated at the fact that I just snored myself awake

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If I do not sleep well I do not eat more because then I tend to fall asleep during the day for 2 hours if I have slept 3-5 hours the night before, so I have less hours to eat, with less hours in that day I get less exercise,but even if tired I try to go for a walk later in the day when not so tired. I get less done when tired because of lack of concentration & lack of coordination & if little sleep I do not go out side that day because I will likely fall & not be observant when I walk. What about melatonin for sleep they are cheap at any drugstore, about $8.00 for 100 pills. They have some time released ones so you are not groggy in the morning. I also wake up to go to the bathroom & I have supper at 7 p.m. or I will wake up 2 hours after I go to bed hungry & eat, this way I am satisfied & do not snack at night with eating later.

I have chronic kidney disease and low blood pressure & blood clots in both lungs for 3 years..I am 54 years old. I am on the Fall Challenge ,Firecrackers Team,on P.S.T. I have passed my 5% weight loss goal.My exercise plan is 2400 minutes a month.I do walking, ride the bike at the gym 65 minutes, 3 times a week & go ice skating for 90 minutes 2 times a week for people over 50. My name is Linda.


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my biggest sleep issue, is gerd. or acid reflux. this doesnt happen to me as often as it used to, i got a handle on it and began taking meds, eating earlier, eating less acidic foods in the evening meal and exercising, even if its just walking thru my house, moving around after eating.
i also have sleep apnea, but it isnt as bad now as it used to be. i gave up using my cpap about a year ago, and i do still snore some, it isnt as bad as it was.
i have always read that more sleep helps with weight loss.
i cant attest to that, but i do know that i go to bed earlier, sleep mostly thru the night, with the exception of one or two bathroom trips....but i get up earlier and start exercising earlier so that has to have health benefits.



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On those few occasions when I been awake until 5 am and then slept for 2 hours, I awake just craving food and more food.

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MISS,
are you waking up hungry/thirsty or to use the rest room?
Is your last meal filling enough?
Have you ever tried tryptophan or GABA?

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MichelleXXXX - The earplugs helped to a certain extent in that my husband's snoring did not wake me up, but I still woke up several times during the night and I was (and still am) almost always awake by 4:30-5.



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I think if you sleep well your overall health improves. Your mind is clearer and you can control lots off things better, including how much you eat. Iv struggled with poor sleep for 5 years. The only way iv found to help me and I still have many nights waking from 2_5 times a night is limited coffee and eating only fresh foods, not convenience foods. Limit alcohol. Yoga helps.

I also take magnesium, but for blood pressure. Has anyone else found this works?

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Were the earplugs effective before?

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JERF - I take magnesium every day plus I frequently soak my feet in magnesium flakes - doesn't seem to make a difference. My problem isn't falling asleep - I have no problem with that, it's staying asleep. Before my husband got his CPAP machine I used to wear silicone earplugs to bed because his snoring would wake me up. With the CPAP he doesn't snore anymore, but other noises wake me up, so maybe I need to go back to the earplugs?



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MISS - I used to have terrible trouble falling asleep until I started taking magnesium before bed. It has helped me tremendously. Have you ever tried magnesium?

I also only watch/listen to comedy or other "light" shows before bed. Like caffeinated coffee, I stay away from heavy subjects after 5pm..

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MISS, Have you ever tried GABA or tryptophan?

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I would love to be able to get 7-8 hours a night but I never sleep well - I go to bed most nights by 10 p.m. and wake several times throughout the night and am usually wide awake by 4:30 and my alarm goes off at 5:00. I'm lucky if I get 4-5 hours a night and most of the time it's not a very good quality sleep. Melatonin does not work for me, chamomile tea does not work, lavender does not work, etc. and I refuse to succumb to prescription or OTC sleeping pills. How does that affect my weight - I'm not sure because I'm not much of a snack person and I rarely eat anything after about 7 p.m. I exercise almost every day and while I occasionally nap in the evenings, it's rarely for more than an hour. I'm trying to not drink any coffee after lunch to see if that makes a difference. I suspect it won't but I guess it's worth a try.



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If I don't get enough rest I tend to sit more.

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what i have read, that if you do not get enough sleep you tend to eat more. and when you eat more, you tend to also not to also have more snacks.

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I have that problem as well. I am working on getting better sleep and am determined to get at least 6.5 hours.


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If I don't get enough rest, I tend to make poor choices.

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if you do not get enough sleep, you tend to eat more.

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I find that I gain weight when I don't get enough sleep. It is not from overeating because if I am really tired, my stomach will be too upset to eat. I am more likely to drink fluids such as water or milk to soothe it. Imagine my surprise when I get weighed the next day to find a gain.

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There is no effortless way to loose weight other than not lifting the fork as many times. Over-sleeping has virtually no effect on weight loss. But sleep is restorative in many, many ways, so try to get 8 hours to take good care of yourself.

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Before I discovered Spark and started reading that lack of sleep can cause us to put weight on, I had already identified that this was so for me. For me the issue is that if I'm tired I need extra energy. I may have jobs to do and no energy and no motivation to do them.

There's a double whammy there:

If I'm lacking in energy I crave the food that my body tells me will give me energy - not the proteins and slow release carbs, but the sugars and fat that make me feel good right now, even if they let me down later.

And if I lack motivation to do the things I need to do, I look for a distraction - food!

And because I'm tired I'm only interested in immediate gratification so make poor choices.

Of course being tired doesn't mean I have to go down that route of making unhealthy food choices all day - but it makes the temptation harder to resist. It also makes it harder to think about getting out and walking or going to the gym or doing other physical tasks during the day.

I think there are other scientific things about hormones that aren't released if we've had too little sleep - but I'll leave that stuff to the experts to explain!

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Hard for me to say since I regularly get 7 1/2 - 8 1/2 hours of sleep every night. and on the rare occasion when I don't guess one night doesn't affect me all that much. I know when I'm really tired I'm not that motivated to work out, but do it anyway and then end up feeling refreshed.

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I think you eat just to stay awake. You have that cup of coffee and add something sweet.



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For me, in part, it's simply that if I'm up a greater number of hours, I'm more likely to be eating. That problem is compounded if I'm not sleeping because of some stressful situation -- like a work deadline or all-consuming project (like a trial or hearing), or my kids are sick. I feel like I need to eat just to keep going. Also lack of sleep erodes my willpower, and my choices are worse -- both with food and motivation to exercise.

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Yep, great question.

From what I've read, because you are up, and not sleep, weight gain is more probably simply because most people aren't disciplined enough to stop eating at a certain time, thus over-eating occurs.
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I gain weight, lack motivation, and have horrible indigestion from prolonged lack of sleep. It's all connected. ;)

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that is an interesting subject. most studies state that it will effect your weight.

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Thats a hard question to answer. I don't think anyone (meaning Doctors and Scientists) have a clear understanding of how it works exactly. I've read many articles about sleep and health and some studies that have been done, but they went into how the body metabolizes fats and sugars and so on and it honestly was way over my head. I really didn't get anything beneficial out of reading them, other than the fact that with out enough sleep, your health is always effected in a negative way. I don't know the why, just the results from a lack of sleep.

In one study, college students studying for finals were given a row of blisters on their arm from a machine. They all had the same blisters created by the same machine. Half of the students were sleeping more than the others and were spending time relaxing.The other half of the students were sleeping less and were not allowed to relax. The students who got more sleep and had lower stress levels, performed better on their tests and their blisters healed faster.

When I was working with a personal trainer, working out was simply to stress my muscles. I wasn't lifting heavy weights, just calisthenic bodyweight exercises. It only took 30 minutes of working out to do what needed to be done. What I was supposed to focus on the next 2-3 days, was resting and eating high nutrient foods to feed my body and allow it to recover. Sleep was instrumental in my body's ability to recover. Just like the students. On a cellular level, my body recovered faster. I was more energetic and I felt stronger each week or two. This was a result of living a lower stress lifestyle, a healthy diet and getting enough sleep. I read a new study recently that linked lack of sleep and stress to shorter lifespans.

I do know that your body becomes very acidic when you eat poorly and dont sleep enough. Think about this...from your the brain to your stomach, your body is a finely balanced system of chemicals, bacteria and cells. I've read that having too much acid in your body causes it to produce more insulin and that causes you to store more fat. You really have to be a scientist to truly understand the workings of the human body and even then, I'm not sure how much they really understand. I still read about studies telling people to avoid egg yolks, which is full of nutrients, especially choline, which is essential for brain function. Since scientists are still telling people to avoid certain real food, or suggest ridiculous things like 1/4 of an avocado is a portion, rather than just eating half of an avocado, I take many of these studies with a grain of salt. I actually had a nutritionist recommend 1 tablespoon of cashews as a portion to me once to reduce fats. I said is that like two cashews??? Why would I even bother? Why would I be afraid to have a handful of nuts when its within my caloric requirements for the day? I have no problem losing weight when I eat healthy fats. I gained weight drinking soda, eating cheese curds from Zeeks Pizza and dipping my big NY slice into ranch dressing. Eating Gyros with 32 oz of rootbeer and a half a plate of french fries deep fried in oil. It wasn't from eating cashews and eggs with yolks that made me unhealthy or fat.

But I can tell you from my own experience, the lower my stress levels are, the more I focus on getting enough sleep, the more I focus on eating real foods (drinking water, eating fruits, whole grains, vegetables, dairy, nuts and seeds) the faster I lose weight and the better I look and feel.





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Interesting question. I know there is a connection so I'll follow this thread to learn more. And for me also, being tired can lead to unhealthy choices.

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I find I need at least 8 hours of sleep preferably 9. If I get less than that I'm tired, unmotivated to work out and don't make great food choices. If I'm continually short sleep over a period of time causes me to gain weight.

How does sleep affect your weight?



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I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

5'4"
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40 years old
2 kids

Lowering my A1C and keeping my blood sugar levels steady eating LCHF.


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