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INTOTHENEW's Photo INTOTHENEW Posts: 729
4/22/19 8:55 P

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And, the Spark recommendations are the NIH and USDA recommendations.

If SAD would eat that way, maybe the bashing of the “system” would lesson.

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LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 31,142
4/21/19 7:25 P

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Great answer, NITEMAN!

"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand."
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~ Art Turock

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4/21/19 12:42 A

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This is the Spark and that's what this website is based on:

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_art
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It's not based on the cabbage soup diet, or the keto diet, the beer diet, or anything other than the balanced eating of The Spark Diet. If you can make some of the tools (which were expressly created for the The Spark Diet) work for you, I'm sure the owners of this site are happy for you and will cheer you on.

My point is this... don't make it sound as though there is some flaw or shortcoming in the tools that were not designed to do what you're trying to make them do. If you can get a screwdriver to do the job of a paintbrush, more power to you but don't condemn the screwdriver manufacturer for building a perfectly good screwdriver just because you can't paint with it. There are many of us here who have used the tools successfully for well over ten years in the pursuit of The Spark Diet and its goals. It ain't broke and it don't need fixed.

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4/20/19 11:48 P

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There is no Keto setting on Spark food tracker but you can edit your nutritional goals. By using the Keto formula set your goals as:

Calories 1200 - 1500,
Carbs 15 - 20 g,
Fat 120 g
Protein 60 g
Team Keto! does not count fiber in their macros.

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4/19/19 7:27 P

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And what is 'high' to one person, may be 'moderate' to someone else, may be 'low' to yet a third. Moderation is meaningless, as JERF pointed out. Carbs to a person who *cannot process carbs* the way a healthy person can is not moderation, it's continuing to make us sick.

Edited by: ELENGIL at: 4/19/2019 (19:28)
I practice intermittent fasting and keto
Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
r-jason-fung-m-d

Intensive Dietary Management idmprogram.com/blog/
Guide to low carb eating www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/
keto/visual-guides

About The Obesity Code www.bewell.com/blog/q-dr-jas
on-fung-book-obesity-code/

Keto Christina www.youtube.com/channel/UCqP
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LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 31,142
4/19/19 7:22 P

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The OP admits to a high carb diet... moderation IS appropriate for him/her.

ELENGIL, you forgot to mention that no one recommends moderation to an addict. or a murderer in the list of absurd ideas.

We are talking carbs....

Edited by: LUANN_IN_PA at: 4/19/2019 (19:23)
"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand."
~ Randy Pausch

"There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when circumstance permit. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses, only results."
~ Art Turock

"We have a saying in Tibet: If a problem can be solved, there is no use worrying about it. If it can't be solved, worrying will do no good."
~ 7 Years in T
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4/19/19 7:01 P

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Thank you for participating in answering my questions.
My problem has always been too low of calories most of which are carbs. I will have to boost my intake of protein and fat to balance it all out.

Here's to hoping & working for a more healthy body!

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4/19/19 6:57 P

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Thank you, Elengil. That was very helpful!

Edited by: GRANDY27 at: 4/19/2019 (18:59)
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4/19/19 3:27 P

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You can reset your goals to suit your Keto diet. I have changed mine to reflect my high fat/low carb diet. SP recommends I eat 207 - 356 g of total carbs/day. I changed my goals for 50-125 g of total carbs/day. (I vary quite a bit depending on my activity level.) I eat between 25-35 g of fibre each day.


I’m not a fan of the term “moderation” because it’s too subjective.

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“In addition, the very concept of “moderation” is intangible—so fluffy as to be meaningless. Does it mean you only eat one cookie at a time, or cookies once a week, or just one bite of cookie a few times a day? The truth is, most of us haven’t take the time to map out exactly, specifically what “moderation” means to us. Even if we did, the “moderation” would probably creep when it suited our needs. (It’s easy to justify that second glass of wine when the bottle is open and you hate to waste it.)

We also like to negotiate with ourselves when we’ve set less-than-firm goals… “I’ll have two glasses tonight, but none tomorrow.” But what happens tomorrow? We are creatures of instant gratification, quickly discounting future benefits in favor of immediate payoff—which means tomorrow usually finds us justifying that one glass of wine yet again.

Habit research shows that black-and-white goals—without any room for interpretation, justification, or negotiation—are far easier to meet than squishy goals. “I will eat less sugar,” “I will exercise more,” “Everything in moderation”… all examples of squishy goals with loads of room for us to bend them to our will and desire. “

From - whole9life.com/2013/08/moderation/

Edited by: JUSTEATREALFOOD at: 4/19/2019 (15:34)
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I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

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Lowering my A1C and keeping my blood sugar levels steady eating LCHF.


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4/19/19 2:45 P

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LUANN_IN_PA - Moderation means something different to different people, and moderation isn't always a good goal. No one tells alcoholics to just drink moderately. No one says crime is okay in moderation.

I practice intermittent fasting and keto
Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
r-jason-fung-m-d

Intensive Dietary Management idmprogram.com/blog/
Guide to low carb eating www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/
keto/visual-guides

About The Obesity Code www.bewell.com/blog/q-dr-jas
on-fung-book-obesity-code/

Keto Christina www.youtube.com/channel/UCqP
OAHxdOfG4j2AzLLl27oA
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4/19/19 2:43 P

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I use spark and eat Keto so it does work but it does take a little bit of up-front work to make it run smoothly.

Percentages are tricky because they change the second you eat anything.

I set my spark tracker up to give me 20g of net carbs as my goal. That means regardless of what else I eat, I should not go over 20g of total carbs minus the dietary fiber. I don't actually care what that percentage is compared to what else I eat, what I care about is keeping carbs low overall not just comparatively.

I set my tracker to keep my protein moderate, around 60g.

I don't really care much what my fat comes out to provided I have enough to feel satiated. If I am still hungry, I haven't added enough fat to my meals.

The best advice I ever heard for following Keto was pretty much exactly this: keep carbs under 20, keep protein moderate, eat fat to satiety.

This is perfectly simple to track on Spark. From your Nutrition page, near the bottom, is Edit Nutrition Goals. You can set your Net Carbs as a tracked item, and adjust your nutritional settings there.

You can't *set* your percentages, but there is a little pie chart that tells you what your percentages are.

I practice intermittent fasting and keto
Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
r-jason-fung-m-d

Intensive Dietary Management idmprogram.com/blog/
Guide to low carb eating www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/
keto/visual-guides

About The Obesity Code www.bewell.com/blog/q-dr-jas
on-fung-book-obesity-code/

Keto Christina www.youtube.com/channel/UCqP
OAHxdOfG4j2AzLLl27oA
LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 31,142
4/19/19 1:39 P

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"I have eaten healthy with high carbs for years and my body shows it. "
Yep, high carbs is not the way to go.
Moderation in all things!

"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand."
~ Randy Pausch

"There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when circumstance permit. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses, only results."
~ Art Turock

"We have a saying in Tibet: If a problem can be solved, there is no use worrying about it. If it can't be solved, worrying will do no good."
~ 7 Years in T
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4/19/19 12:32 P

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That is too bad. Not all bodies work the same. I have eaten healthy with high carbs for years and my body shows it. I am willing to try something different to lose weight and get healthy.

LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 31,142
4/19/19 11:14 A

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Is there a keto setting in the Spark food tracker?
No, as SparkPeople does not advocate that way of eating.

"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand."
~ Randy Pausch

"There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when circumstance permit. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses, only results."
~ Art Turock

"We have a saying in Tibet: If a problem can be solved, there is no use worrying about it. If it can't be solved, worrying will do no good."
~ 7 Years in T
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4/19/19 1:59 A

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Appreciate the response .. although I have no idea what you said/meant. I think this must not be the tracking program for me to figure out 70% of fat, 25% of protein, and 5% of carbs.

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4/18/19 11:11 P

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No, there isn't a keto setting, but you can set your own goals for grams of fat, protein, and carbs. The % actual will reflect what you eat but the goals listed for those % will remain the standard recommendations.

I practice intermittent fasting and keto
Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
r-jason-fung-m-d

Intensive Dietary Management idmprogram.com/blog/
Guide to low carb eating www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/
keto/visual-guides

About The Obesity Code www.bewell.com/blog/q-dr-jas
on-fung-book-obesity-code/

Keto Christina www.youtube.com/channel/UCqP
OAHxdOfG4j2AzLLl27oA
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4/18/19 9:11 P

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Is there a keto setting in the Spark food tracker? Or is there a way to preset the goals you are aiming for in % of fat, protein, carbs?

I have no problem following a regiment with food items as long as it does not take me tons of time to figure out the details.

Any help in making this less cumbersome will make it more likely a success for me!

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