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BUDGETMAW Posts: 13,629
2/11/20 6:13 P

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When you say that vegetables have 15 net carbs, are you referring to the Atkins suggestion that 15 of your net carbs come from vegetables? I think they say that somewhere, but it doesn't mean that you have to either eat 15 grams of net carbs from veggies or no veggies at all.

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2/11/20 4:59 P

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@BUDGETMAW, thanks. I got my info from Atkins literature.



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BUDGETMAW Posts: 13,629
1/27/20 7:33 P

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What vegetables are 15 net carbs?

For 10 net carbs, you can have:
1 cup of chopped fresh broccoli
1 cup of raw cauliflower
1 cup shredded or chopped Bib lettuce
1 cup shredded or chopped iceberg lettuce
1 cup mushrooms
1 cup Napa cabbage

That's a total of SIX cups of veggies for a total of just 10 net carbs.

These are just off the top of my head.

I'm not criticizing or even really questioning your diet. We each choose our own food plans here, and that's a good thing. But I know you're new to keto and low carb, and want to share my own experience, in case that can help you.

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1/27/20 5:33 P

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@BUDGETMAW, vegetables are 15 net carbs. If the goal is to eat 10 net carbs per day, veggies don’t fit on a daily basis.



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BUDGETMAW Posts: 13,629
1/27/20 5:13 P

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I don't understand why you only eat veggies once I week. I eat veggies every day, and usually more than a pound a day.

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1/27/20 3:29 P

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I’m good, but it’s hard convincing my husband to only feed me veggies once a week.



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BUDGETMAW Posts: 13,629
1/27/20 9:57 A

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How are you doing, Meekeral? Are you finding things you can eat that meet both your low carb/keto needs and your pescatarian needs? Hope so. Let us know if we can help.

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1/13/20 1:46 P

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Thanks, @BUDGETMAW. The Chipotle keto salad is good too. I should add more hot peppers to my diet.



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BUDGETMAW Posts: 13,629
1/10/20 9:46 A

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Hope you're finding ways to make low carb work for you, Meekeral! Let us know if we can help.

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1/6/20 9:12 A

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I just happened upon this post with mostly vegetarian keto menus. A few include meat, but that could easily be replaced with fish. And most have few ingredients, too!

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1/3/20 4:54 P

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@BUDGETMAW, I like the soup idea!



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1/2/20 6:03 A

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BUDGETMAW: such wonderful ideas - thank you!

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BUDGETMAW Posts: 13,629
1/1/20 11:02 A

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By the way, one of the good things about eating low carb is that many of us have found that we can eat a LOT more calories and lose weight! It has something to do with biochemistry and hormones and such. By restricting our carbs, we change the way our bodies process food, or something like that. Anyway, it really does work!

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1/1/20 10:59 A

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I used to make a lot of very simple soups. I'd start with a can of chicken broth (veggie broth would work just as well) and then just add enough for that meal. A few examples -

Egg drop soup - bring broth to a boil with some cut up veggies in it (from your mason jars!), when boiling and the veggies are done, add a few eggs and stir them around with a fork until the eggs are done. Or sometimes I don't even add the veggies.

Cream of something soup - put broth and frozen veggies in a pan, heat and cook until the veggies are done. Run through a blender. Add cream and/or shredded cheese. Works with cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, mushrooms, and other veggies. I usually used a can of broth and half a pound (half a bag) of frozen broccoli, or whatever. Or you can chop up a couple of hard-boiled eggs and put them on top.

Leftover soup - put broth and leftover pretty much whatever you have in a pan. Casseroles work really well for this. Add some veggies, or not, depending on what else you added. Heat, cook the veggies if needed, then run through a blender. Add some cream and/or cheese if desired. Or chop up some hard-boiled eggs and add them.

Oyster stew - put some milk (could be almond or soy milk, if you prefer, I usually use cream these days) in a pan with a can of oysters. Add salt, pepper, butter and a dash of Tabasco sauce. Heat to just below boiling. Be careful, though - it loves to boil over and it makes a real mess when it does!

Salsa - this isn't a soup recipe by itself, but you can put salsa in a lot of different kinds of soups and use that as your seasoning. Not sure if it would work in a soup with milk. It might curdle it.

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1/1/20 10:06 A

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Excellent!

When my older son left for college I knew he'd be eating junk, even though he had a kitchen available from freshman year on. So I started putting together "lazy" versions of some dishes - lasagna, monterrey chicken, stuffed cabbage.

They're not vegetarian, obviously, but take a look; you can probably adapt some of the ideas:

www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_p
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If you have a slow cooker, that can be a real easy lifesaver. Most crockpot recipes involve minimal prep time and the newer cookers generally have an auto shutoff feature.

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12/31/19 10:55 P

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@WOUBBIE and @BUDGETMAW, these are great ideas! I like the mason jar idea as I hate for him to take all this time cooking for me to complain that I'm over in calories. And I like the idea of salsa on scrambled eggs. I haven't had salsa in a while. And, surprisingly, despite my abilities in the kitchen, I do know how to boil (thus the name of my cookbook) and have been able to throw some foods in a pot of water and make some decent soup. We have so much vegetable broth that it's coming out of our ears.

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12/30/19 6:26 P

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If you like tacos, you can make a crust/shell with nearly any kind of cheese. Get your husband to whip up some cod, and you can make really nice fish tacos. The basic ingredients are oil, lime, cilantro, and whatever chili powder/paprika/cumin combo you like. He could probably pre-cook some for you and keep it in a container in the fridge.

I usually use sliced havarti that I buy at Aldi. I put one slice on a paper plate (the kind with the coated surface, not the plain-jane type), nuke it for 1 minute, and voila! Cracker substitute or taco shell.

Then put some cod and some salsa on the shell, nuke it for just a few second to warm it, top it with cheese or sour cream or guac. Mmmmm. Guac.

Jarred or fresh salsa is really handy to add a lot of flavor to things without any prep whatsoever. You can put it on microwaved eggs and be ready to eat it in, like, 2 minutes. Make sunnyside up eggs like this:

Spray a microwave plate with cooking spray or lightly grease with butter.
Crack an egg onto the plate and lightly prick the yolk with the tip of a knife.
Microwave on high 45 seconds.

While the egg is cooking, get your salsa. Open it up, and by the time you've gotten your spoon out of the drawer, the egg is done. Put on a dollop of salsa or guac, salt to taste, and instant breakfast or lunch!

Edited by: WOUBBIE at: 12/30/2019 (18:32)
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BUDGETMAW Posts: 13,629
12/30/19 4:59 P

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How about quiche? Crustless, of course, on low carb. It's easy to make and keeps well. I've gone through long periods when I had quiche every day for either breakfast or lunch. Probably both, sometimes. A salad - as in a hunk of lettuce - makes it more lunch-like.

Or a big pot of soup. Again, it keeps well, and, if it doesn't include milk, it freezes well, too. So does quiche, for that matter. A big pot of vegetables in broth, and you can add fish to it as you get ready to serve it. Your husband can add other meat, if he wants. Or eggs. I often use eggs as the protein in soup.

Or salad. Have your husband cut up a bunch of veggies and put each kind in a mason jar. Then just take out what you want from each jar to make your salad.

Anyway, welcome!

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12/28/19 8:00 P

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That's a start!

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12/28/19 7:19 P

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@NAYPOOIE, I did put together an Easy Vegetarian Recipes collection on SP that meet my requirements of 4 or fewer ingredients that don't require cooking, so I guess there's still hope after all: recipes.sparkpeople.com/Cook
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12/27/19 4:31 P

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emoticon By all means, let him cook! Just try to steer him to cook the things you need.

The main thing about cooking is that it gives you a chance for some variety. I eat a lot of the same things every day (check out the "What I Ate" thread), but occasionally cook different things, primarily for dinner. I've got a couple casseroles I make, and a couple soups, an occasional stir-fry. I frequently bake chicken thighs or do a pot roast, which gives me protein for a number of meals/days. Throw some of the meat and some veggies into a pint of stock and you've got a quickie soup. I did that one day when I just couldn't face my chicken thighs, and I ate both of them as soup with much more satisfaction than eating them straight.

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12/27/19 3:11 P

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My husband buys groceries and cooks. I have a panic disorder, so it's really not a good idea for me to take control in the kitchen unless the idea is to starve and have anxiety attacks more than once a week. I've messed up salad, rice, smoothies, cornbread, cocoa, brownies. I've gotten the fire alarm to ring when I put jalapenos on a stove. My cookbooks are How to Boil Water and Ramen Recipes. My husband has to constantly remind me how to cut. The only thing I can do no problem is bake muffins from a mix. On special occasions, I'll try to make something, and he'll just tell me it's the thought that counts. However, I can also fix a turkey sandwich and even fixed a decent Thanksgiving meal one time in my life. The only time I feel somewhat safe is with those subscription boxes, but we don't have the money for that. On a regular basis, I could only handle a recipe that had 4 ingredients or less and doesn't involve cutting or cooking, maybe something raw vegan. I recently accidentally stabbed my thumb with a fork.

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12/26/19 4:41 P

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Hi, and welcome aboard!

You seem to have a really good grasp of where the problem is, so give yourself a big pat on the back. You're off to a good start.

The big question is: Do you cook? What's the dynamic in terms of who buys groceries and who cooks? In our house, we're all on our own for most of the week, but DH prides himself on his cooking skills, so Sunday dinner I generally end up eating whatever it is he made (minus any really egregious carbs like bread or pasta). His feelings get hurt if I grumble or don't eat what he made. Most of the time I deal with it, though, cause it's only one day a week.

If you can take charge of those things, then you can make him eat an actually HEALTHY vegetarian diet, and you probably can as well. As long as you're able to eat eggs and occasional fish, vegetarian low carb is totally doable.

Edited by: WOUBBIE at: 12/26/2019 (16:43)
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12/26/19 4:36 P

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Sounds like you've got a good plan. Most of us seem to do better if we eat real food. I find the soy in meal bars upsets my stomach, so I started avoiding it years ago. While there are bars and meals out there that don't use it, most seem to.

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12/26/19 2:24 P

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Hi, all. I started on the vegetarian diet in 2018. Since then I'd gained 30 lbs. and my husband lost 30 lbs even though we eat the same foods. I believe it's because my protein intake went down and my carb intake went up. I also learned recently that I have a very minor gluten allergy. Since then, I've decided to open myself up to fish, and I will eat eggs and dairy products. My husband buys the groceries and does all the cooking, so I need a way to easily encourage him to fix healthier meals. His go-to meal is to pop a vegetarian pizza in the oven. I tried to do the South Beach Diet, but most all of the products contained soy, so I had to get a refund.



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