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5/30/11 4:24 P

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Jack's are high energy. Lovable but would require long walks.
I've had lots of luck with shelter dogs, and have rescued 2 others from homes where they were no longer wanted (one was a Rottie & Sebastian is a powder puff chinese crested who's other mother had to go to a home due to Alzheimer's). The only problem I had with the rottie was I needed a bigger bed!
Take your time and do the research, terriers are great breeds, but may not be suitable for everyone.
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5/30/11 11:57 A

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From what I've read about Jack Russell's is quite a few of them are jumpers so you would need to have a taller fence than the typical 4' chain link. I would also go with a breed specific rescue if your husband is against rescues.

We have a beagle/boxer/hound mix who is annoying quite a bit of the time (I totally love him but he's sooooo active) and a Am Staff (Pitty) who is the most fantastic dog ever. I think it all depends on the individual temperament of the dog and not necessarily the breed.

Take the time to figure out what you're looking for: you said not yappy and not too active so I'd stay away from puppies and go for an older dog. You can also find quite a few who are at rescues and trained. Also, if the rescue dog is in a foster home the foster family can tell you a lot about that particular dog.

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5/29/11 4:44 A

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Hi
I am so sorry for your loss, its never an easy time.

When you say a Jack Russell and then think 'terrier' with all the yappiness that is the reputaion of the group, does it put you off a bit?
We have a Parsons Jack Russell, which is the original Jack. They have longer legs (great for going running with) and are a bit calmer. We have a Parsons and she is just brilliant. She's 13 or 14 now (from the rescue centre so not totall sure of her age) not yappy or snappy at all. She was reasonably easy to train and she is great with other dogs. She lives with 2 greyhounds and a tiny Jack Russell and is no trouble at all.

Sometimes I think that getting a completely different breed to the one you have just lost, is a great idea. You are then not so prone to comparing the newcomer. I would love another GSD but not ready for one yet. I was looking at one in rescue yesterday but found myself thinking "taller than Troy, not as well put together as Troy etc etc"

Good luck with whatever dog you chose, I am sure that he or she will have a great home with you.

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5/22/11 12:16 P

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i am a shih tzu girl, I love them because they are low maintenance, walks are ok, laps are ok, can go with you anywhere, just very stuburn....... but I researched them for years before I bought one..... cause I don't really like big dogs, that can pull me down the street...lol but decide what you want to be able to do with your dog , and how much time to got to give them.... good luck , let us know what you decide....have a blessed sunday emoticon

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5/22/11 11:54 A

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It's really difficult to tell someone what kind of dog to get...there are too many and they all have good and (sometimes) bad traits. I think you are very smart to start thinking about it now. It is most important that you figure out what your expectations are for a dog and what you are willing to do for/with your dog (care, walks, etc). Best of luck!

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5/22/11 8:00 A

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I love the Bichon Frise...this is all I have had. However, it is most important that you find a REPUTABLE BREEDER for this type of dog, as they can have health issues. They are such a wonderful companion and little clowns. They do require a lot of grooming, though.

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5/22/11 1:43 A

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My favorite breed are whippets. They are medium-sized, short-hair, great joggers (once adults) but very calm in the house after they had their run, generally very good with children, easy to train, fairly quiet (unless they are about to go for a run). They have a lot of social intelligence and love touch. They have to be indoor dogs and might need a coat in the winter depending on climate. They also need to be kept on leash near traffic and need to be protected from more powerful or aggressive dogs because they are thin-skinned and have little protection from their coat. They are a very healthy breed and not rare.
The price of a purebred is higher if you buy from a good breeder but it is a small amount compared to the lifetime cost of a dog.
Jack Russell Terriers are very fun but can be very aggressive with other dogs and also with other animals and sometimes with people. Terriers were bred to hunt and kill vermin. Not a good beginners dog in my opinion.

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5/22/11 1:21 A

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Also if you want a purebred but that is price reduced, you can generally get an older puppy/breeding dog from a breeder - these are typically dogs who either for some reason don't meet their breeding program requirements, or who are retired from being a show/breeding dog. Sometimes breeders, keep a few puppies to grow out.


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5/22/11 12:23 A

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I would agree with going to a breed rescue if your husband insists on a purebred dog. Research the breeds you are interested in, then talk to the breed rescues about the breeds and their traits (not all all-breed websites are completely correct on the traits of the breeds, either). The breed rescues should know their breed characteristics and be able to tell the temperament of the dogs they rescue if they have fostered them for any time. Most of them are also rescued from shelters, so you would be doing that rescue too.



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5/21/11 11:54 P

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Well said Meags!

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I am probably going to sound way to brutally honest hear, but its things you need to consider. If you go with a reputable breeder, I can pretty much tell you that they will not sell a dog/puppy for a Christmas present (or to get on Christmas). Most will tell you to get it a month or so before or after.

There are several "breed specific" rescues out there, that are homes to purebred dogs. So you can always look at that as an option, if your hubby will not budge on getting purebred dog, but it won't cost you as much.

The reason purebred/registered dogs cost so much money is because parents are health tested (for whatever is specific for that breed); parents should be titled; they come from good stock; pure bred dogs - their litters are planned so that the best male/female combination works; pure bred dogs generally are fed better foods (such as we start our mom's to be on premium puppy food, before the puppies arrive, and she gets this until they are weaned); the puppies will be socialized (to some degree, depending on the age you get them). You will get a written health guarantee, the puppy will have had at least its first set of shots (for our puppies they have also all seen a veterinary ophthalmologist before they leave our premises). There is a lot that goes into a purebred dog, that I think a lot of people don't recognize.

There are some breeds that whelping costs are a lot higher, because they start with a c-section (like with Pugs), most can't deliver naturally.

I would really research your breed(s) that you are interested, and honestly I wouldn't give it as a gift. Let everyone in the family make the decision on which dog/puppy you get, because everyone is going to be involved. You also all need to be on the same page with what your wants/expectations of the dog/puppy will be. Do you want it to be a couch dog, do you want something more active, do you want something that is really high energy.

No matter what you choose, I would also say at least 1 round of basic obedience class is necessary, this will help form your bond to the dog/puppy but will also help with socializing and civilizing them. I would also say crate training is a must, this not only makes sure your house/belongings are safe, but that you know the dog will be safe too. Crating also gives the dog their own place to get away.

You can even talk to various local breeders, and ask them about their dogs, get educated (even if you do end up going with a rescue), talk to the breeders, and find out about specific health concerns with the dogs (like Collies have eye problems or are susceptible to the MDR 1 - Multi Drug Resistance) and certain drugs can kill them if it is given to them.

Honestly research, research, and discuss with your family what works for you. I don't care if you go with a mutt, or you go with a purebred dog, but go with what suites your family, and also go with whatever everyone agrees on.


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5/21/11 11:23 P

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You might consider a basenji. They are medium-sized (around 30 pounds) and technically barkless, although they'll sometimes make a yodeling sound. They are short-haired and have adorable curly tails.

I can't speak for every dog's temperament, but the purebreds I've known have been really sweet.

We have a basenji mix. We think he might be mixed with dachsund or chihuahua, he was a rescue. He is the sweetest dog. We don't have kids, but frequently take him to picnics and parties where kids are present. He is really good with them, even toddlers. He just wants to be petted and part of the action.

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5/21/11 11:05 P

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I agree - shelter dog or rescue, but in case you can't, you might try this quiz www.dogbreedinfo.com/search.htm Good luck in your search. Also - while I have never owned a Jack Russel, they are high energy and I would plan on alot of training...

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I would look at shelter dog. You can find some very well trained and wonderful dogs at a shelter. Check out my blogs about our Weaver. I would not trade him for a million dollars. He actually picked us out. I don't know about a Jack Russell. My son-in-law was just attacked and had to have 3 stitches in his ankle from a Jack Russell.

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5/21/11 10:46 P

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Thanks for the great responses.... Yeah, the Christmas morning thing probably wouldn't work out in reality, but we would prob. shoot for around that day. My kids are older: 13 and 15 and this would be the only gift they would get from us and that would be 100% fine with them. We'd work something out... Still gonna push the hubby for a rescue!!!!

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Labs are wonderful family pets. We have had 3 lab mixes, and they both were/are smart as can be. Loyal, friendly. I hope you can talk your Hubby into being more open minded about mixed breeds. Sometimes pure breeds can come with a lot of health problems. Depends on who you get your dogs from of course. Let us know when you make your decision.

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HI - I don't think you will ever be able to replace a golden with any other group. I've never owned a full golden, but have friends with them, and all the reading puts them at the top or at least within the top 5 family dogs. We have always had larger dogs, lab mixes, but this time we decided we needed to go with a small dog. We chose to rescue a dog this time and what a great blessing for us and the dogs. Oliver was our first little one. He is a white Bichon Frise and something, probably poodle, about 3 years old. The positives: Already neutered, already had shots, already housebroken and in need of love. Negatives: WHITE, and needs expensive grooming.

I would do some reading about pet rescue agencies. Then you can show your husband some of the reasons that mixed breeds are better than pure. Do you want a puppy, or a young dog? Puppies come with problems. They need patience, dedication and TIME. An older dog comes with their own set of problems. They may have been mistreated, or not trained properly, if at all. See if the shelter can tell you why they were given up. We have been lucky with both Oliver (Bichon mix) and Janey (they say poodle mix, I think lhasa mix). Both were housebroken, although Janey sometimes makes a mistake. Janey has also taught Oliver to bark. She also snapped at my son-in-law the other day when he just walked in. After I thought about it though, I decided that was not such a bad thing. She didn't know him and so she saw a stranger come in, after she had barked at him to stay out. She was protecting our home. How much harm can an 8 - 10 pound dog cause anyway. She is about the same size as his shoe. lol.

I would suggest that you go to www.adoptapet.com . You can sign up to have emails about pets in your area that meet your criteria. This is how we found both dogs. We got them a year apart and at different shelters, but this gave us lots of options and they usually give a little blurb about the dogs personality, etc.

Good luck with your search. The only thing that I find a little questionable is getting a puppy for Christmas morning. Not sure how old your kids are, but think about all the excitement that Christmas morning brings, and remember the dog will be in a strange environment and my need a little calm at first. Also, the kids may have other things they want to enjoy. It's a great romantic notion, and I've always wanted to do the Christmas thing but not sure.

Again, enjoy your search and good luck. Kathryn emoticon

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It would be a good idea for you to go on line and look up each breed you might be interested in. Below is a link to a site that talks about 160 different dogs from lg. to sm., shedders/nonshedders etc.

www.justdogbreeds.com/dog-breeds.html

We just got 2 dogs, Chihuahuas, which I have had this breed for many yrs. Both our dogs are purebred and one is a puppy mill rescue, the other is a surrender from a family that moved out of the country. They are both sweet and there are more rescue dogs out there needing as our 2 did. I have had 3 previous rescues and only 1 from a breeder. You just have to know what you would like. Good luck in your search.

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Don't get pugs, bulldogs, pekes or any other flat nosed dogs. They are very susceptible to heat stroke.

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We rescued our greyhounds and are addicted to the breed. We wanted a smaller dog but gave in to my daughter and got a greyhound. Even though they are a large breed, they don't take up as much space as you would think. The local rescue group can hook you up with the traits you are looking for. We have a girl who loves to play with toys and a shy boy. Most greyhounds don't bark and they love people. And they are pedigreed purebreds. They are very low maintenance because they are mostly couch potatoes. But they do like to walk and a fenced back yard is a major plus because they love to get out and run. Good luck on your search.

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We lost our beloved Golden Retriever (our first ever family pet) to heat stroke a couple of months ago and now we are starting the process of thinking about adding to our family again. We are thinking about surprising the boys with it on Christmas morning. So we have time--- I am a planner, LOL!

We are not super knowledge-able about dogs, so I thought I would come here on SparkPeople (I love how you can come here for anything!) and ask my friends for some advice.

Here is what we are looking for, generally speaking---

Medium sized dog

Short hair

Could go running with me (I run slow, LOL!)

Is easy to train (like I said, we are not too experienced with dogs, we just read and try to apply the info)

NOT super hyper... doesn't go crazy with the barking, only when strangers come to the door

What do you think??? Hubby is a HUGE fan of the show Frasier and is really wanting a Jack Russell terrier, but everytime I hear "terrier" I think of yippy/yappy dogs that just don't quit and run all over the place. And I have also assumed they were difficult to train.

Now let me say... *I* would absolutely, positively LOVE to go to a shelter and adopt an unwanted mixed breed dog. Unfortunately, my husband is very against the idea. I still have time to work on him... I am not crazy about paying outrageous prices for a purebred dog and I think some of the best dogs out there are mixed breeds, but he is very adamant about this and I really don't think I can win.

So any thoughts on the Jack Russell or any ideas of a different breed?

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