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10/31/18 9:57 A

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Aye, I agree. One of my biggest challenges is figuring out what the key is for each of my 100+ students and trying to find time during the year to appeal to their particular interests and strengths. Makes the work exciting.

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3/28/16 9:42 P

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Yes, in the US :-) I didn't mean to imply that my experience was too applied, just that what got me hooked on math was the theory, and if my courses had been more "applied" I might well have been turned off.

I do think if I had to learn high school algebra and calculus today, I might find them TOO applied -- for me. At least from what I know of how things are taught today.

When I say examples were confusing, that's when I understood the real world less well than the math. When I understood both, the examples were just obvious.

One of the points I tried to make (and didn't make well) was this: It's necessary to engage students mathematically in a way they can relate to. For many students, it's examples. For a few, it's abstract concepts. If we're going to increase general mathematical understanding AND encourage bright theoreticians, we need to accommodate both types of student.


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3/28/16 8:30 P

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I am SO intrigued that you experienced the math curriculum (in the U.S.?) as TOO applied! My math education was almost entirely devoid of applications and modeling until I won some contest in high school and the prize was a subscription to the newsletter of the Consortium for Mathematics and its Applications. It was a revelation to me that people used numbers or functions to describe anything in the real world.

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Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout.
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We drew a circle that took him in!
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3/27/16 5:58 A

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I agree, GREBJACK, that for a lot of kids you need to answer "when are we ever going to use this?" -- but I think we risk missing out on some of the brightest mathematicians (physicists, chemists, etc.) if we don't also accommodate the few who like math or science for math or science's sake.

What worked for me was I was placed in (high school) algebra one or two years early and ended up taking college Calc II, Calc III, Modern Concepts in Mathematics, and Number Theory my last two years of high school. In other words, I was mathematically engaged IN A WAY I COULD RELATE TO -- pure mathematics. For a lot of folks, examples help, but for me they are boring and sometimes confusing. ("What shape is a trough?" I asked once for calculus homework.)

I think this is being addressed more now, at least at the college level, but one thing that is important is the ability to do library (and nowadays, reliable internet) research and create a finished product. I managed to get through high school, and college, without really learning how to write a term paper. Now I am at the write-the-dissertation stage, and have been at about the same point for quite a while.

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3/26/16 10:35 A

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Curious what opinions people on this group (people who succeeded in getting a good science/ engineering/ math education) think about how we SHOULD be preparing our kids. What worked for you?
Personally, I had a huge advantage 'cause my mom was a math major and my dad an MD, so a rigorous understanding of how the world works was just part of the dinner table conversation. And I really enjoyed (enjoy) math for pure geekdom's sake. But I see with my students an awful lot of "when are we ever going to use this" and one of the things I love about the school where I teach is the emphasis on teaching the core subjects in interdisciplinary "expeditions": math is not some weird grammar that they never get to "write" with - it's a language for understanding things that they can see why someone other than a math teacher would want to understand.

Rebecca

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Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout.
But Love and I had the wit to win:
We drew a circle that took him in!
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