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4/4/10 1:21 P

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Thanks, TERT. Love the photo of your dogs, too!



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3/30/10 3:46 P

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Hi Nicole,

I actually think it is common for people to attempt to steal dogs-particularly this breed. Our dogs were rescued (SPCA), and we've had people say they "think the dogs were theirs" before. Maybe it depends where you live, etc. If anyone ever threatens to call the cops, definitely let them call them. you are in the right! Also, I've never heard of "pits growing out of their color"...My Maxie has white on his paws, and the only time it gets darker is when he needs a bath! :)

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3/24/10 1:09 A

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Hey Nicole

Actually, I don't think it is a common occurrence with people wanting to steal other people's dogs, but there may be a thug element who will do this as a means to get a dog. Of course, thugs that want dogs for the wrong reasons can easily get them from craigslist and other such places.

Take care of your sweet angel and watch your back in bad neighborhoods.

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3/23/10 8:09 P

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I'm guessing all you would have had to do was say was pay these vet bills and I will give her back to you... and you would never hear from them again. Both my dogs changed colors from puppy hood but only became darker... the pattern of their marking never changed. Hope everything works okay! Shes a pretty girl =)

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3/23/10 3:39 P

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Hey Nicole, I've watched your workout videos enough (and done them enough) to know you are one tough cookie. I have no doubt you could take them on! emoticon

Also, I just want to second everything Rasputina said.

Ginger is YOUR dog. Just look at that sweet face and tell me SHE thinks anything different.

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3/23/10 2:59 P

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Thanks Marsha. That is an interesting story about your bunny. Kudos to you for saving it and properly caring for it!

Rasputina-

We registered the dog to us already and do plan to get it chipped asap (need to go in for some additional vaccinations and, as we just found out, to get her spayed anyway, as she is just now going into heat).

It is interesting to know that this is a common occurrence for people to try to get your dog. I will be more prepared for that in the future. We were so caught off guard and I didn't want to be stealing anyone's pet, so we just didn't even know how to react when they asked us where we got our dog. Now we are always going to say that we got her as a puppy to avoid these situations again. I am definitely avoiding this area from now on!

Thanks everyone. I still feel a little shaken thinking about accidentally encountering them again, but I am feeling better about it all.

Nicole



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3/23/10 1:17 P

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Hi Nicole

Firstly, from a safety standpoint, I would never follow anyone to their home. Who knows what could have happened to you or your dog. And yes, I did say YOUR dog. You did everything you could to find the owners, if the dog had any and their was no indication that this dog had been looked after and/or licensed, microchipped, etc. All that yells to me loser owner or owner to lazy to do anything for their dog.

Some thug people (in the wrong neighborhoods) may want a free pit bull. Hey, I used to walk my dogs through a couple of blocks of street that had homeless people, etc, to get my dogs well socialized to freaks (not referring to the homeless people, but some of the odd people we would see) and it was great. However, on two occasions I had guys yelling 'hey, that is my dog' and I know full well that they were lying.

These people could have lost their dog, but I think it is more likely that they just wanted your dog. I might be inclined to make a report to the police. However, I would immediately license and register the dog to your house, and microchip the dog to you.

Oh, and dogs make have some color changes when they are puppies and I am meaning slight changes (coat may get darker or lighter) but they do not lose the distinct markings like white paws then no white paws....not in my experience anyway. Of course, if the dog did belong to these people, the dog WOULD respond to its name or at least exhibit some sign of recognition on seeing them (good or bad). So, I would forget about them, and play it safe walking the neighborhood.






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3/23/10 11:00 A

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I agree with the General. Ginger is yours.

We have a rabbit. They way we got Penny was she showed up in our yard out of the blue. We took her in and took her to the vet. (She had ear mites.) A few days later, my husband was outside and two boys said to him "Mister, you have our rabbit." Hubby told him to have their parents come down and talk to him. Nothing happened. Then a few days later, again the boys said something to hubby. This time, hubby gave him his phone number and told them to have their parents call him. Nothing.

We took Penny to the vet (after the ear mites were cleared up) to have her "fixed" (Spaying or neutering is a MUST for pet rabbits.) The boys stopped by soon after that. Hubby told them this time "Nope. She's our rabbit now."

What we think happened is she was an "Easter bunny" that the parents had gotten tired of and decided to turn her loose. Or maybe she was getting hormonal (as unfixed bunnies tend to do)and they decided to get rid of her. It's amazing she ended up in our yard as we live on a busy street and there are always dogs running loose.

My point is, if you have taken Ginger to get her shots, have had her spaded, and have registered her than she is YOUR dog. If someone wants to dispute that than ask for the money that you have put into her. (Most of the time, they don't want to have to pay for the dog. But if it was truly their dog and they wanted her back, they would be willing to pay to get her back.)

I've never heard of pit bulls changing their colors. And I've not heard of people claiming that you have their "lost" dog so they can fight them.

Edited by: FUNNYSUNNY123 at: 3/23/2010 (11:03)
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3/23/10 9:28 A

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General-
Thanks so much. This helps me to feel better. You're not the first person to say to me that some people will lie or do anything to try to get a dog from you, especially a pitbull. We are definitely getting her chipped and staying away from that area. This morning, I ran with Ginger down a new route in the opposite direction. :-D

Actually, I must confess that I got the idea for her name from YOU! When you posted in my original thread about finding her, you mentioned Ginger and I just fell in love with it. So thanks. Hope you don't mind. ;-)

Thanks again. I still feel spooked, but I know it will pass. The longer we have Ginger the more I feel justified that she is "ours" and can't be taken away even if we were to encounter her previous owner. And I agree--it was apparent when we found her that no one was searching for her, training her, or taking good care of her, so she is in better hands.

Nicole



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I fully believe those people were lying. That is NOT their dog. What you did was the right thing. They wouldn't report it to the cops, they only did that to scare you. More importantly, people who pull stunts like that--especially when we are talking about bully breeds--do it because they want the dog as a fighter. Their intentions were NOT good ones. I totally believe they were BAD people. I have NEVER heard of them growing out of their colors on their feet. that's just stupid. Since they couldn't produce any physical proof it's their dog, your fine in the eyes of the law.

I DO understand your safety concerns. Finding another route is probably a good idea. It's also possible these guys saw you over the last few weeks walking the dog at the same time of day and decided to make a play for the dog. They sound like such hooligans (and that's me being nice).

Definitely get her chipped--it only takes a few seconds at the vet's office (a vet tech can do it), and you can even go online to register her.

My suggestion would also be (this is totally just what I would do, but I recognize not everyone is as harsh as me) to accept that whoever had her beforehand was not fit to keep her. She deserves a happy, loving home. It sounds like you are providing just that for her. So, with that being said, if anyone tries to say to you "That's my dog", you just tell them, "Can't be. I adopted her at the shelter when she was little" and keep walking.

I hope this helps.

P.S. You named her Ginger? That's so cute--my little red nose is also named Ginger. Good name for a pittie! give her love for me

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COACH_NICOLE's Photo COACH_NICOLE Posts: 9,354
3/22/10 7:45 P

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Hi everyone-
First off, thanks again for all of the help and advice you have given me over the last few weeks, from when I first found Ginger the stray and finally decided to keep her. I struggled a bit with whether or not to look for her owner very diligently, simply due to the neighborhood she was found in, especially when this dog was not chipped, had no collar and had no apparent training. We looked for classified and reports of missing dogs, however, and found nothing and finally decided to keep her. It's been about 3 weeks now and Ginger is doing great! We walk her twice a day around the same 3-4 mile route near our home.

Today, on our usual evening route a car stopped and the people jumped out saying Ginger was their dog who had been missing for 2 months, that they had pictures of her and had her since she was a puppy. We followed them up the street to their apartment, feeling really anxious and sad about what might happen. We love Ginger and don't want to give her up and have been creating a really great life for her.

They were adamant that this was their dog, saying she's about 6 mos old (our vet estimated 9 mos), that she was a full pit (our vet and most people do feel she is a mix based on her build, head shape and size), and that someone stole her from their apartment. The pictures looked like her only in overall color, but the dog was shaped differently, had four white paws (Ginger has no white on her paws), and a lot more white on her neck and chest (Ginger has one small spot). They called her by her name "Pink" but she did not respond. They kept saying that pitbulls "grow out of their color" which was their explanation as to why Ginger didn't look like the whiter dog in the pics. She didn't seem overly excited--no more than she acts around any person who gives her attention.

I was SO stressed out and didn't know what to do. They were yelling at us and saying they were going to report it, but I asked why they didn't report her when she was lost/stolen and they just didn't get around to it, I guess. Never registered her, never looked for her.

We just ended up saying we were sorry and that we understand that it's hard to lose a dog but we don't think this is their dog AND we have been caring for her for, paying her vet bills, registered her, etc. We just had to walk away after about 15 minutes as they threatened to report us to the police for stealing their dog. I'm not sure they have a case at all, so I am not worried.

BUT I am stressed out and scared! I don't want to encounter these people again. I don't believe this is her dog and even if she was, they didn't look for her, never trained her, and didn't care well for her--not like we are/have been.

I guess maybe I am looking for some support or validation? I don't know. I just feel scared about losing her or them coming after us or finding out where we live. I think I am going to take a new route for our walks and runs with Ginger--and my fiance and I are determined to chip her now in addition to the other registrations we've already done.

Any support or advice would be appreciated. Thanks for being such a great group.

Nicole



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