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8/6/12 11:59 A

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VEGGIE I use the exact same medications and I also stagger them so that I don't put them on at the same time. THe vet didn't tell me to, but I just do it intuitively.

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8/6/12 10:20 A

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I use heartgard and frontline plus as reccommended by the rescue where we adopted. Initially instead of heartgard, they had her on Interceptor, but sadly it is no longer in production. I make sure to stagger the doses of the medicine by giving her the Heartgard then waiting 3 days or so before applying frontline. I also purposely space each dose more than the 30 days apart. I don't know if it really makes a difference, but I feel better doing that way so that its not too many chemicals in her system. Reading all the horror stories of side effects has made me very cautious and paranoid.

But with greys specifically, I know our rescue said there are only certain brands that are safe for greys with their thin skin and low body fat.

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7/25/12 11:21 A

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Both dogs use Heartguard, and now have their Frontline application. I've not seen any ticks on them, but the grey is outside alot in the fenced in yard, so I'm extra careful.




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7/19/12 7:55 A

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We have both ticks and fleas in our area..and this year they are really bad. I don't think we have a large problem with heart worms, but there have been some cases. I've been using Frontline Plus and Heartguard for a long time without any problems for various types of dogs that we have had. The rescue group we adopt from doesn't recommend using flea collars so I've never tried them.



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7/19/12 7:24 A

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We use Sentinel which is a combined heart worm/flea & tick medicine. I live in Central Florida and we have an abundance of both fleas and ticks. I have never seen a tick on my dogs but they do occasionally have a flea, even with the medicine. We do it year round.

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7/19/12 1:39 A

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WOW my vet (current and previous) prescribed both the Heartguard and the Frontline Plus for all my dogs. I have to say, I don't Heartguard them in the cold months. Nor Frontline them. But a dog w/ ehrlicia living til 12 years of age is pretty dang good. Bacall had 2 rounds of Imizol (I think that's what it was) plus the mega doses of doxy. And it was always one thing or another from that disease. Shortly after she passed, the group was trying to talk me into another adoptee (I tend to get the sick, spooky ones..mine is the home of last resort). when I found out that she had ehrlichia I just couldn't do it.

BTW after reading this I pulled the product insert from my Heartguard plus and there isn't anything (and I read every word) about flea products not being used w/ it. Maybe the formula has been changed since your friend used it. There was no warning re: adverse effects when taken in conjunction w/ any flea prevention.

IMHO they shouldn't sell flea/tick collars period. My vets have been totally against them.

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7/19/12 12:42 A

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CAUTION, CAUTION, CAUTION: Read the fine print. My friend was using a pretty "safe" flea/tick collar on her greyhound. She also had the dog on Heartgard. Can't do that, as she unfortunately found out. The hound had a neurological reaction and went blind in one eye. The eye wasn't damaged, the nerves to the eye were damaged. She also had balance problems for the rest of her life.

The vet pointed out the small print on the Heartgard package that said you should not use it in conjunction with flea & tick prevention treatments.

Since I use Heartgard, I do not do flea or tick prevention. Fortunately, in the desert parts of Arizona, we don't have much of a struggle with the pests.

BIGHAIRTEXAN, I also had a dog that had a nasty bout of erlichea. He was on tetracycline for life, after the series of shots brought the titer down to tolerable levels. Lived to 12.

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7/18/12 6:59 P

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MOLLY,
15 years ago I had an Old English and every summer I'd cut shave him and put a flea collar on. Well one time (and he was only about 7 or 8) I put it on and 30 min later he was laying on the ground and had thrown up. I took the collar off, brought the packaging to the vet (along w/ the dog). It was all downhill from there and even with IV's and intensive care we had to put him down as his liver and kidneys were attacking his blood and he was going to die anyway.

Since then I've read about how toxic those collars are, and it makes me leery about using anything. Maybe I'll do what was suggested here and kind of wait to see if I see any fleas. I'm in a very suburban area of Dallas and there aren't any woods or high grass or anything around me where one would normally find ticks. No deer, or other large animals (just a few squirrels and small rabbits). I've never seen a tick anywhere in my area in 8 years of living here.


OH and I now use FRONTLINE PLUS and the flea collar that killed my dog were Sergents!

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7/18/12 6:34 P

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We have ticks galore where I live so I am faithful about putting flea and tick meds on. My greyt does not seem plagued but my fluffy border collie mix gets them even with the meds. They are usually one their last leg by the time we see them so I know it works.

We just by a store brand....Hertz works well and is cheap. We bought Sergents once and our non-greyt had a terrible reaction. We actually thought we might have to put him down. He was inconsolable. We took him to the vet and they gave him meds to try and calm him down. He probably had 12 baths in 3 days. Slowly it got better. We called the company and they had several reports. I now can't remember what the ingredient was that they said they thought was the culprit. I think I would remember it if I saw it but now I just stick to Hertz brand.

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7/18/12 5:09 P

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I've used Frontline for years and never found a flea or tick on my dogs. (I would put it on faithly every month - Spring through Fall.) It was getting too expensive for 3 dogs. Some friends of mine said they didn't put it on regularly and, instead, just waited until they saw a flea. I adopted the same approach this year and so far there has been no need to use it. Personally, I think they're worse in the fall. Probably making one last attempt to get a ride inside to spend the winter where it's warm. I hate using too many chemicals and obviously they didn't need it as often as I was using it.


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7/18/12 5:05 P

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I do use Flea/Tick meds and have never seen a flea or tick on any of my dogs. I hate using what is essentially a toxin on my dogs, but I use them nonetheless.

My favorite dog of all time, a greyhound named Bacall, got both anaplasmosis and Ehrlichia from ticks at the track. These illnesses, along w/ Babesia, Lime, and Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever are evil, ugly, terrible diseases. There is no cure for most of them, and the antibiotics used to try to put/keep them in remission are REALLY rough on their stomachs. I had Bacall on 2 rounds of doxycycline for 2 months at a time at double the normal dosage. This was recommended thru Tick-L Digest where there is a wealth of information on these diseases. I was worried that the cure might kill her. I monitored her antibody titers to ehrlichia and anaplasma, and when it soared, indicating active disease, I'd retreat. We tried Imizol shots and doxy twice each. They'd help for a while but then BLAMMO her symptoms would return, I'd do a titer and we'd retreat. She was taken from me at the age of 8 from an illness that probably was linked to her compromised immune system from the ehrlichia. She had arthritis caused by it, as well as neurological symptoms and fast growing cancer.

I hate ticks w/ a passion and I thank you for REMINDING me that the meds are OVERDUE!
PS: I've never seen a tick where I live but I'll never take the chance.

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7/18/12 4:47 P

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I've never really given it much thought. But I had this big ugly tick on my arm the other day, and I was thinking about the dogs. I don't really use any sort of flea or tick prevention meds on them. Do you? What do you use?




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