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10/27/10 1:36 A

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UPDATE:
Took the "elephant tranquilizer" (as my hubby loves to call the muscle relaxer meds the dr gave me...LOL) last night before bed. This morning, my back is WORLDS better. In fact the only pain I have is that the tissue in my back is a bit tender in areas where I massaged a bit aggressively.
Woooohooo! Feelin' SOOO much better already!

**Darcy**

My PRs:
5K Run: 22:55 (non-race)
10K Run: 46:16
Half Marathon: 1:43:12
30K: 2:43:54
Marathon: 3:47:44


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10/26/10 6:09 A

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UPDATE:
Went to doctor just to get a professional opinion. Doctor said my muscles are simply very cramped up and hardened along my spine on the right side, most likely due to improper movement of some kind (which I think I have pinpointed myself). He also said he DID NOT believe I had injured myself or torn anything, but simpy that the muscles are cramped up. I have been perscribed a muscle relaxer and pain meds to help with the pain, and will be taking a few days off of some of my activities....

Phew! Nothing too serious!!

**Darcy**

My PRs:
5K Run: 22:55 (non-race)
10K Run: 46:16
Half Marathon: 1:43:12
30K: 2:43:54
Marathon: 3:47:44


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10/25/10 3:22 P

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Teamdirtdogs -
First of all, thank you for the great explanation and info.
Secondly, the scolding session was really not necessary. I do aim to take care of my body, absolutely. But I will not stop doing something that I am NOT EVEN SURE is the cause. With the helpful info you provided, as well as my analyzing my activities and when I first noticed this pain, I have to say it is related to bike-riding (particularly when I have ridden with my backpack to the gym), and perhaps overstretching at my strength training class I take (called "BodyPump"). I simply attributed it to my running on Saturday, simply because I couldn't think of anything else that might have triggered it. However, the pain did not start during, nor was ANY pain noticeable immediately after. It wasn't until Sunday that I noticed it. I have been a long time runner and have NEVER experienced back pain due to my running. AND THEN, I remembered, when we were out shopping on Saturday afternoon, I was pushing our twin stroller, but we were letting the twins walk. I was trying to hold onto my little girl's hand, while maneuvering the stroller one-handedly. I even remember a point where I felt like it strained my back. "My back is KILLING me..." Ever heard of using a touch of exaggeration? My whole objective in posting this was to see if anyone else had any experience with this sort of thing, and what I could do to help it (for ex. hot/cold treatment, caution against overstretching), what might be the real cause, which you did very well in explaining. Thank you. And of course, to use all this info to pinpoint the real cause, and hopefully avoid it in the future.

Crzyrunrgrl - As I was thinking about all of this, I remembered I had noticed some discomfort in that area of my back before, particularly riding my bike with my backpack to the gym. I think it might have something to do with that. But then, as I stated in this post, I think I strained my back funny while pushing my stroller with one hand on Saturday. I don't actually think it has anything to do with the running. But I will be making a doctor's appointment if I don't see improvement by tomorrow. Today, I used Thermacare all day, and then iced it, and am using Thermacare again, which has seemed to help. Thanks so much for your concern!



**Darcy**

My PRs:
5K Run: 22:55 (non-race)
10K Run: 46:16
Half Marathon: 1:43:12
30K: 2:43:54
Marathon: 3:47:44


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10/25/10 12:07 P

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Muscle spasms don't just happen for no reason. They can happen because of an electrolyte imbalance (potassium deficiency in people on diuretics,for instance) or as a reaction to a muscle tear. In the case of a systemic cause, such as electrolyte imbalance, the spasm usually involves a muscle group, such as calf, not a specific trigger point, i.e. something you can point to with a finger. The latter is more indicative of an injury.
To understand how muscle fibers, aka myofibrils work, think of fibers that overlap, analogous to yout interlacing your fingers. When you stretch your muscles within "safe" range, the fibers pull apart but continue to overlap. With overstretching, such as a sprain, they pull all the way apart. In those instances, ice to decrease inflammation and heat to relieve spasm and to increase blood flow to the area can help the sx and speed up healing, but only time and *not reinjuring* the area will actually heal it.
I am not familiar with "body pump", but there is a very high risk of injuring yourself with certain ballistic moves, esp if you are not properly warmed up.
At the risk of sounding blunt, you might want to take a look at your own posts....my back is KILLING me. You most likely did something to injure yourself, and your activities are re-injuring it. If you are pretty sure you did not do that, then look to kidney. If the pain is that bad, seek medical attention. But if doing something makes it *significantly* worse, as you have stated, then *don't do it*. In the end, the whole concept of running, fitness, being in shape, etc., is respecting your body, its abilities, and its boundaries. Treat your body with respect and it will return the favor.

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10/25/10 9:01 A

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Do you think its getting worse? If so I would see a Dr or chiropractor just to see what's going on.
I have had plenty of pulled muscles, they are achey but shouldn't really be getting worse unless you keep straining that muscle.
Keep icing/heating and maybe take a few rest days.
Keep us in the loop :)

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10/25/10 1:34 A

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Could it be that I am simply having muscles spasms, without really having a tear or having pulled something? Now that I have thought about it further, I never really had the feeling of a pulled muscle. And I actually noticed this pain several weeks ago (though never this bad) when I was riding my bike, and a few other times. It wasn't that bad, just a little uncomfortable, so I didn't think much of it...

**Darcy**

My PRs:
5K Run: 22:55 (non-race)
10K Run: 46:16
Half Marathon: 1:43:12
30K: 2:43:54
Marathon: 3:47:44


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10/25/10 12:07 A

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Muscle spasms!! I think that's what I'm having!! That makes sense that I strained something in BodyPump and maybe stressed it again during my runs causing spasms. Ok, hot/cold therapy, here I come! I'm not gonna take running off my plate just yet though... But BodyPump might have to go on the back burner. We will see.

**Darcy**

My PRs:
5K Run: 22:55 (non-race)
10K Run: 46:16
Half Marathon: 1:43:12
30K: 2:43:54
Marathon: 3:47:44


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10/24/10 4:33 P

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Sounds like you injured something, probably during your body pump class. Most running injuries are overuse-related, yours sounds more acute, and if you are able to pinpoint where it hurts then it's more indicative of a muscle tear and probably the accompanying spasm. If running *significantly* increases the pain then the wise thing would be to not do it. Try walking, and also heat and ice to the offended area. If you're in that much pain while running then it will likely throw you off your form, possibly leading to other injuries, and the reason the *back* is hurting so much is that what you're doing is reinjuring it.

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10/24/10 1:38 P

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Ouch! It sounds like you may have pulled something.
When my back hurts its my SI joints in the hip area.
Take it easy and feel better soon ;)

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10/24/10 1:26 P

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I know none of you can really tell me whats wrong, but I'm having this weird back pain. It's on my right side. I don't think it's a kidney infection, because I can pinpoint the pain in my tissue on my back, near my spine. Could I have simply pulled something during my run? I think I felt it a little after my last BodyPump class on Wednesday, and think it might have something to do with something we did there (dead lifts? Planks?), but it's significantly worse after my run yesterday. I'm not sure if something is out of place, or I pulled something or what, but it's very uncomfortable, and I'm hoping it doesn't interfere with my run tomorrow!!!
Any ideas or suggestions?


Edited by: RUNDARCYRUN at: 10/24/2010 (13:27)
**Darcy**

My PRs:
5K Run: 22:55 (non-race)
10K Run: 46:16
Half Marathon: 1:43:12
30K: 2:43:54
Marathon: 3:47:44


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