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11/12/10 4:36 P

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You should totally do it.

Film it.

Post results on youtube.

I could use a good laugh. emoticon

"Maybe Boston someday" has been officially replaced by "Boston fall of 2010."

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TEAMDIRTDOGS's Photo TEAMDIRTDOGS Posts: 499
11/5/10 3:50 P

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Actually, yeah. And we were on the beach when it happened too...a beach facing the south china sea, not the indian ocean. But 3 days prior we'd been on a beach where about 50 people later died. One of several close calls, makes you think though, doesn't it?

CD1425027 Posts: 12,206
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WOW! Really??? Hope the trip goes well this time!



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11/5/10 2:10 P

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Is this a good time to mention that I was there (back in Malaysia) on Dec 26, 2004, first time in 20 yrs, and they had this problem w/ this wave thing....

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11/5/10 2:05 P

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Banish those thoughts!!!

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts" - Winston Churchill

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11/5/10 1:56 P

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Thanks Shaz, now I need your good thoughts that my plane's engine won't blow up from volcanic ash (or other causes) and then land in a giant puddle....

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11/5/10 1:54 P

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That's right!! Good thoughts to BOTH of your dads!

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts" - Winston Churchill

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11/5/10 1:42 P

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BTW, RunTriLaugh and I are both Wendy's emoticon

RTL--my Dad is 24 hrs away by plane! (and 15 hr time difference) and Mom just sent me photos---the town is flooded! (record rains). How's my plane supposed to land in 2 wks! (We're going for Tgiving). Trying not to stress emoticon
I kinda guessed on the diabetes, and the peripheral vascular issues, and the aneurysms, and the infections that didn't heal. Poor guy, glad he's got his wife to help him, a lot of stuff going on there. Unfortunately, heart dz, diabetes, high cholesterol, high BP all run in my family. My sister had a heart stent placed at 41. Everyone is on meds. Which is why I run...partly to stay healthy and off meds, partly so I can eat ice cream, partly bc when I'm out there, no matter how bad my attitude is when I start eventually I'm just incredibly grateful that I can do this.

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11/5/10 10:57 A

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Wendy - sending good thoughts your dad's way!

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts" - Winston Churchill

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11/5/10 10:46 A

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Hey - but you tried!

He's also been diagnosed with diabetes, which is where the infection/ and ALMOST amputation played a major role. He's walking on 2 canes right now (after having 1/3 of his heel shaved off, then a stroke after recovering from that). ITS BEEN UNREAL!

But, his wife is amazing at taking good notes and being his medical liason. (My mom passed away almost 12 yrs ago from cancer, and he's 4 hrs away from me, so her help is a godsend!)

Thanks again everyone!

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11/5/10 10:30 A

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Ouch, your poor dad! ITP and vascular aneurysms are a tough combo. It's tough watching, isn't it, my dad was a very independent, mobile guy who's traveled all over the world. Speaking from personal experience though, having been on both sides of the white coat, having supportive family is beyond important. There is a limit to how much the medical process can achieve, and how fast, but the family is there to provide the quality of life that makes it all worth it.
I have to confess that I have not been able to donate blood. Tried a couple of times, first time was for my friend's mom who was getting a kidney, donated by her brother. My veins are too small, too deep, so after multiple uh, stabs in the dark, they sent me packing...... Second time they didn't even try.

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11/5/10 8:32 A

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Ha! I remember that article, but NOT the blood donation part of it! Thanks for sharing!

Yes, it is ITP, but he's had A LOT of other issues this past year. Next step is likely the removal of his spleen, then surgery to remove an aneurysm behind his right knee that we haven't been able to get to (due to infections, threat of amputation, other more pressing issues, and an AAA that was 6 cm's) since they found it (the right knee anuerysm) almost a year ago.... (OH, and by the way - he was otherwise healthy and mobile until October of 2009 when he got an infection in his foot that started this snowball)

Thanks again! As the typical coordinator for our drive, I know its HARD to get people to sign up. Right now, they only have 11 donating, and there have been years where we've had as many as 45. Its a true need, and its not that painful. Wish more people knew how important it was/is!

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11/4/10 9:13 P

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The Gallon Club! You deserve extra cookies! That's pretty awesome.

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11/4/10 2:56 P

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As a member of the "gallon club", I wanted to mention that I think one gets a boost from donating blood (after everything comes back to normal), since your body is generating "fresh new" blood to replace what you've donated.

So, my post was more to caution you on the timing rather than the actual donation!

Runner's world just had an article that included timing of blood donation...

www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,
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11/4/10 2:39 P

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sorry to hear about your dad. sounds like itp? my dad was dx'd w/ ALS 6 yrs ago. i ran my 1st marathon for him and scared the bjeebers out of the whole family. they thought i'd kill myself or at least hurt myself very badly. he made me promise that if i got too tired i'd turn back. after i finished, i waited a few hrs (it was about 4 am his time when i got done) then called him and sd "i'm so sorry, i couldn't do it, i tried but it was so hard" and he sd "it's ok, i'm still proud of you" and then i started laughing hysterically. 10 marathons later, since i haven't died or become crippled yet, he's actually kinda proud of me.

hope your dad's health gets better. the need for blood will always be there though. i wish dedicated donors like yourself could be there when we've had patients circling the drain from blood loss, and then come back after they get the transfusion(s). once the body loses too much blood, unless we can replace it, it's game over.
so---have a great race, give your body a few days to recover, and give yr local blood bank a call. they'll be glad to see you.

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11/4/10 2:15 P

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interesting articles!

my dads been through a lot this year (the least of it has been 7 units of platelets in the last 3 months) so that is where this years desire to participate at work (along with "tradition") is.

although it seems like "erring on the side of caution" may not be a bad thing here.

thanks to everyone for your input!

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11/4/10 1:59 P

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You got some pretty unanimous "nos", so you've got your answer, but here's some FYI:

An article from THE PHYSICIAN AND SPORTSMEDICINE said, in part:

"After donating 450 mL (1 U) of whole blood, plasma volume falls 7% to 13%, then recovers within 24 to 48 hours...Marvin Adner, MD, a hematologist and internist in Framingham, Massachusetts, and medical director of the Boston Marathon, says that blood donation should not be a concern for active people who are not world-class athletes--as long as they are not iron deficient...Donald M. Christie, Jr, MD, an internist and sports physician in Lewiston, Maine, says hydration is the best recovery strategy. Donors need to drink not only what is offered afterward at the blood donation center, they need to aggressively hydrate over the remainder of the day, says Christie, who is an editorial board member of The Physician and Sportsmedicine. "Noting the color of the urine is a good way to gauge hydration status," he says.

He advises endurance athletes to think of the blood donation day as a rest day, and to tread cautiously the next day because hydration stores may not be replenished and delayed vasovagal effects may occur. Christie says though the performance decrement would be slight in an endurance athlete, blood donation should have virtually no effect on strength or short-burst activities."


An article in Omega Cycling by Dr P A Lambeti (MBBcH), said, in part:

"A study has been done looking at the effects of blood donation on exercise performance in competitive cyclists. This study evaluated 10 male cyclists before and after phlebotomy (donating blood), to determine the effect of donation of one unit of blood on exercise performance. Each subject underwent maximal exercise testing with oxygen consumption measurement at baseline, 2 hours after phlebotomy, 2 days after phlebotomy, and 7 days after phlebotomy. The results found that maximal performance was decreased for at least one week and that submaximal performance was unaffected by blood donation.

Thus, if you are a competitive cyclist, do not donate blood within 7 10 days of a competitive race, as your performance will be compromised. If you are a casual cyclist performing submaximally, you may not experience any deleterious effects apart from a higher heart rate than normal from the day after donating."

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It's awesome that you have such an active participation in blood donation and blood drives. I've participated in a fair number of bad traumas and hairy surgeries, and I've seen first-hand the lives donated blood has saved, so thank you for your dedication and your compassion, and have a great time on marathon day.



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11/4/10 11:07 A

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You already got your answer but NO NO NO!!! I read that it takes 6 weeks to "come back" from blood donation. I donated about 10 days before a half marathon and literally wanted to DIE on the course.

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11/4/10 10:38 A

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Thanks everyone! Thats what I was thinking - you all just confirmed it!

(I am usually the coordinator for this drive, but I think they'll all understand if I don't give the ONE year I don't coordinate it! LOL)

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11/4/10 10:27 A

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I would NOT give blood this close to an event. Your bonemarrow wont be able to compensate and make enough red cells - hence you are compromising the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood.

There will be another drive.

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11/4/10 10:04 A

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I had the same quetion before my marathon and what I understand is that you shouldn't give blood a couple of months before a big race or long distance like that. It takes a while for the balance to come back.


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11/4/10 10:04 A

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Usually you feel better after a day. With hydration and rest you should be fine, but Why chance it? I would recommend against it. Make another appointment after the marathon

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I had the same quetion before my marathon and what I understand is that you shouldn't give blood a couple of months before a big race or long distance like that. It takes a while for the balance to come back.


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11/4/10 9:40 A

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Is that too soon before a marathon to give blood in our annual blood drive???

Blood Drive is 11/9 and the marathon is the 13th...

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