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3/20/14 10:32 A

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good morning and i totally agree!!! You can see the love in all animals they way they care for their young same as we do, that shows they have a soul like we do. emoticon

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I have heard this too, but my God knows how much I love my animals and how good they are, I can't believe that he would not let them in heaven. I believe they are waiting for me there and will the first ones to greet me.

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what a very post. i have always believed animals go to heaven. They receive and give love, they feel pain and joy just like us, they have lots of intelligence and use it way better than lots of humans, they take awesome care of their babies and even will take care of other babies that are left alone, they don't discriminate like humans, how can anyone think they have no soul and other species too. It is so hard to keep losing pets but I still have to have one. 5 months with no dog were SO lonely!! Have a nice day and love and hug those furry people!! Georgine

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I must say I have always believed that animals go to heaven. I had a great friend growing up. His name was Ringo and we got him long before the Beetles came on the scene. He was a Collie cross with Cocker Spaniel. Several years after Ringo passed on I got Princes and she was a German Sheppard cross with Collie. Her mother was a purebred and show dog. Her father was a gigolo who jumped the fence. She very protective of my daughters,. One day the next door little boy came in the yard yelling at his sister to come home and Princess got in-between him and his sister and wouldn't let him get to her. Princess had one bad fault, she liked to chase cars and trucks. One sad day she got out of the yard and chased a truck and caught it. Then we got Sandy. She was a cross between a Golden Retriever and a Beagle. She was absolutely the love of my life. When I was sick she would stick right with me. I lost my girl in 2004 when she was 18 years old and I still miss her. If animals are not allowed in heaven, it can not be called heaven and I don't want to go there.

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This is from jesusjazzbuddhism.org

Animals Have Consciousness: The Theology and Science of Animal Consciousness
by Jay McDaniel

www.jesusjazzbuddhism.org/animals-ha
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I have to believe I see all my pets again once they pass emoticon

If nothing ever changed,there'd be no butterflies


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Bescats, i have berm enjoying the pictures of your dogs too. They are all so much fun and special to us! Georgine

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Georgine, I love the name Brandy too. I don't know if I told you before, but we had a husky/collie mix, and we named her Brandi.....she was such a special girl, and I will never forget her. We lost her in 1991, and didn't get another dog until 2006. Now we have 2 Mini-Schnauzers & they are the love our life. We have always had cats & still do.

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Brandy is a lot of fun. We saw the vet and she had her shots and wellness check up and is doing well. I am training and she learns fast, i just have to be consistent. The name Brandy was in a list of names my granddaughter was sending me and for whatever reason it just popped out at me, reminded me of the pretty brown eyes labs have. I hope she learns to go down steps soon as she is getting longer and heavier! I feel like my world is complete again. Georgine emoticon emoticon

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I agree with you Angelbeliever, about animals going to heaven.

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Dear Georgine, I am so happy to hear you have a new baby to raise and look after. Love the name Brandy. My DH said they had a dog named Brandy when he was growing up.
I see you are CaptMorgan 2. Our last name is Morgan! Good name. LOL

I believe animals have souls and they will be in heaven with us.There are scriptures that tell us they will be in heaven. I can't imagine God creating animals and letting them die and go nowhere for eternity. He cares about everything He creates.



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I also do NOT understand folks who do not like animals. They must not like their kids either, because in a lot of ways they act more like "animals" then animals do. And in a lot of ways, animals are more caring for you then your kids. And animals have that unconditional love.....which most humans do not!!!

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I agree Georgine. I also can't understand a person who doesn't like animals. To me they are missing something ~ I don't know if it's a soul, or just a little part of themselves.....All animals bring great love to our lives, and they give us a purpose to live. emoticon emoticon emoticon & all of God's creatures.

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i HAVE A MAGNET RIGHT NEXT TO ME THAT SAYS, ST. FRANCIS, WATCH OVER OUR PETS. ALSO, THERE IS A TIME EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU CAN BRING YOUR PETS TO BE BLESSED. i CAN'T LOOK AT MY BEAUTIFUL PUPPY AND THINK SHE HAS NO SOUL WHEN SHE CAN GIVE SO MUCH LOVE AND COMFORT. WHEN I MEET PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY DON'T LIKE ANIMALS I AM TOTALLY AT A LOSS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MISSING IN THEIR HEARTS?? THEIR LOSS. IT HAS BEEN PROVEN HOW MUCH LOVE AND COMFORT ANIMALS GIVE FREELY. I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER ABOUT LIFE NOW I HAVE MY PUPPY. IT WAS A LONG LONELY 8 MONTHS WITHOUT A DOG!! emoticon emoticon

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I believe every animal has a soul - we are all living, breathing, interconnected beings who can feel pain, fear and happiness. There are so many different religions which somewhere have a quote regarding animals and our relation to them. I lean more on to Buddhist end of the spektrum but am confident in saying that animals indeed have a level of consciousness similiar to humans and if there is a heaven surely God [regardless of religion], must allow all of his creations to enter.

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Puppy is keeping me on my toes, snuck by with 2 little puddles and i came close to putting my foot into it but that's ok. Of course she sleeps a lot and plays hard but that is all part of having a puppy. She sure got responses on Facebook where my granddaughter put pictures of her. So much fun!! Now need to work my program again, Had big plans for Jan. and so far am still hit and miss. Never give up!! Georgine emoticon

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Morgan, I am so happy to hear that you have got your baby. That is very, very good for her and you. No, we were not tired of you mourning your labs. All of us completly understand. Hugs & blessings to you and your new little one.

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I love her with all my heart, now i feel somewhat whole again but will always miss my girls. This little girl is already part of our family tho I think yellow lab Alex thinks she is a pain especially when she attacks his legs. We had all the kids and family here and friends tonite, how much better can that be??!! You all probably were tired of me mourning my 2 labs, they will always be in my heart but finally I can feel a another love. i made a box for her but for whatever reason she chooses to sleep out of it, tonite she fell asleep behind it when i played with her. She had a busy day and I am sure she will not make it thru the nite just like any baby. That is ok, I chose to do this and i will give her my best. I can handle anything now, maybe not at my best but with her at my back.I will do my best.. How i have missed that kind of love!!

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So happy for Georgine. She has a new, beautiful baby named Brandy.

Remember, dog backwards does spell GOD !! He has entrusted one of his creatures to you to care for. You are special. emoticon

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I do hope that the right dog comes your way. There are so many that need a loving home. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. emoticon

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I would rather rescue an animal, my kids have been looking but there aren't many female chocolate labs available, i don't care if she is a mix. I think when this weather gets decent i will ask the kids to take me looking, I think we have 2 places an hour away. I keep remembering the vet telling me I am not too old to have a puppy at my age, that it would be good for me and the puppy. Time will tell. I will be having Big Al again while my daughter is on vacation. I have to laugh cause my son brought the house for Roscoe and Roscoe jumped on the bed and went under the covers for the nite and Big Al did the same tho we had to lift him. Oh yes, I am also thinking of calling these places to see if they do get a female choc. lab they would call me first. We are really lonely without the girls, i spent so much time with them there is not a day doesn't go by that things i eat and do make me think of them. Georgine emoticon

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Glad to hear you are now looking, Georgine. I don't know if you are looking to rescue and animal or now, but any rescue animal would be very lucky to enter your life, and the love that you would give. emoticon

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I agree, especially after i read the book the dad wrote about his little 3 year old dying on the operating table and coming back saying and knowing about things and people he was way too young to know and hadn't been exposed to and didn't even understand what he saw. Still miss both my girls a lot, looking around some now. Georgine

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You are so right, there is no doubt in my mind that animals have souls & feelings, and that God has a purpose & a place for ALL his creatures, and when their job is done he will bring them home. God loves all his creatures, both great & small. emoticon emoticon
Somewhere Over The Rainbow !!!

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I'm both Christian and Buddhist, and I've found a happy answer to this in both traditions.

The Psalm145:-9-10,13,15-21 reads, “God loves all His creation and has made plans for all His children and the lesser creatures to enjoy His eternal Kingdom.”

We are taught in Buddhism that animals have Buddha nature.

In my heart, I have to believe that our Creator, who gave them the capacity to love, will bring them home when their time on earth is over.

May all sentient beings be happy!


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IMHO, while I can't speak about "heaven" I do believe that we link up energetically when we pass, with other beings of our choice. In the meantime, I believe our animals stay close to us energetically in this life just like our loved ones do if all concerned agree to it on a spiritual level. As an animal communicator, I have had some wild, weird, wonderful, insightful chats with animals both here and "there." And it's a privilege to do so.

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So sorry for your loss, and everything you have been through, CAPTAINMORGAN2. emoticon

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Most of you know i had to put my Morgan down, and i am not doing well with missing her. Just wanted my wishes to cremate her like her sister did not get conveyed to the vets so i do not have her ashes. i don't blame them, i guess when i was so upset i did not convey my wishes. I wanted to put their ashes in the lake where they had so much fun, and we enjoyed them so much. They were a hand full that we accepted with love as they gave to us. They were the joy our lives. Having 2 chocolate female labs to raise was absolutely wonderful. We were not prepared but we fumbled . One of my favorite pictures is me sitting on the terrace with both of them. Now knowing i don't have Morgans ashes bothers me but ? ..

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IMANGEL50,I loved your post. emoticon

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LOVE IS LOVE!..... GOD IS LOVE!.... CHRISTIANITY TEACHES 'AGAPE LOVE'. EQUIVALENT TO UNCONDITIONAL LOVE... LOVE ALL WHICH GOD HAS CREATED...
FOR HE LOVED US SO, THAT HE GAVE US GREAT COMPANIONS...OUR PETS.. emoticon emoticon

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good morning! Beautiful weather in the 70s for a nice change, supposed to be 48 tonite! No dog for me yet but am enjoying pictures of my "furry grandson" , Alex, that my granddaughter puts on Facebook. He is the yellow lab that thinks he is a lap dog and he has separation anxiety big time. have a great day! Georgine emoticon

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Hi everyone. it's just me and my cat,

With Love and Hope for a bright Future.
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Yes, Georgine. Getting a shark would be a bad idea, but what a conversation starter!! He might be hard to cuddle with at night!

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Just popping in to say hi, no dog yet but this conversation reminded me of an email I saw today. A man caught a white shark in his fishing net and he cut him loose and the shark follows him everywhere when he is on his boat. It comes up to him and rolls on his belly so the guy can pet him and he closes his eyes and flaps his fins. It came with pictures and at the bottom of the email it said --who says animals have no souls. It was an awesome email but i have always told my husband that humans mis- judge living things and so many have no regard that they are living things and don't treat them with care--not that trying to befriend a white shark would be a good idea, the shark picked him. Not sure if sharks are animals or mammals but they evidentially do have actual feelings and can care. Awesome email! I, too, love animals over some people. Now i just need to find one, not a shark tho! Georgine emoticon

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I love animals! My husband and I have 6 dogs and 1 cat. We also foster for a local rescue and have 2 foster dogs! I love animals more than people sometimes! Animals are never cruel just to be cruel and they never judge! I don't know if animals go to heaven all I know is that I want to go where they go! :)

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I agree with WHITEANGEL4. If my dogs don't like you, you need not be in my home. Although Jackson has an attitude problem and gives the "stink eye" to people as he walks by. He's not a big fan of men; he just loves his ladies!!

He will walk into the far corner away from the person and growl really low and give the stink eye, and I can't stop myself from laughing every time. I know I shouldn't encourage him, but it's so funny coming from this little furry critter! He really hates my brother, and my brother has no patience for him.

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I certainly believe they do. They are made of love for us. They are our companions regardless of anything else. They do not judge us, they just love us. I find that people that do not feel for animals are cold hard people. They are usually on for themselves........I ahve found that if my animals do not like a person, I need to watch out for them. they are not good at the heart.

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If they didn't, they wouldn't care when we sit around and cry, they wouldn't cringe when we get mad and raise our voices. Animals have evolved along with humans - and probably more so. I know they are better at adapting to change than we are.

I also agree that our loving petsm treat us better than our own family some days.

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I agree with EVERYTHING that everyone has said below.

MAKE 2020 THE BEST YOU CAN.

REMEMBER, JESUS LOVES YOU--ALL THE TIME!!

"RIP MY SWEET, SWEET ALAN. I WILL LOVE & MISS YOU FOREVER."
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For me it's hard not to believe there isn't a special place in heaven for them. The love and compassion they give is so unconditional. Just watching my oldest cat, Joe-Leen (she's turning 14 years next month) I know there has to be an after place for them and we meet up with them when our time comes.

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I agree with all of you. God created animals to beautify the Earth and to add to our joy. They must also fill the measure of their creation. If animals can't go to heaven, I don't want to go there either. I plan to be with my animals friends when I leave this Earth.

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Yes, of course they do !! Animals have more heart & soul than most people do. emoticon

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The earth is a living creation as my husband was saying yesterday. Yes I find some church people put animals down. They don't know how much some of us need them. We can't depend on people but we can on our animals. I believe if God loves us as much as he does than why not.


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Our animals do have souls and do go to Heaven. All creatures were created by God so why wouldn't he want them with him? I read a very good book called "Who Says Animals Go To Heaven? This was written by Niki Behrikis Shanahan, who also wrote The Rainbow Bridge: Pet Loss is Heaven's Gain. I recommend both books. The first book is a collection of Prominent Christian Leader's Belief's in Life After Death For Animals. So many scriptures are listed that prove our animals will be with us in heaven. So I'll see Micky, Tyke, Tiger, Taffy, Sandi, Snowball and Thor when I get there. eventually Max too. What a wonderful reunion that will be.

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I hardly know how to answer this but I will say my little dog Baby was such a good and loving animal that I believe he went to heaven and is waiting there for me.If I get there and he's not and I'm like my God I will say Baby come and he'll be there.I miss my little animal so and I lost him to the grave over a year ago. emoticon

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Dear Katlady,

Sorry to say, but I cannot speak for all "animal lovers" (although I do not understand how they can call them selves animal lovers if they feel that they are JUST ANIMALS), but it says in the bible that one of the reasons animals were put here on earth was to provide us companion ship. And although I can't tell you where it is in the bible, I have had many people tell me that it says that animals will be in heaven. I believe that all my babies who have & will go before me will be in heaven with me one day. Nobody can take that belief from you Katlady. And you know what? If the folks in your church don't agree with that or do not really love and care about animals......then it is their LOSS!! In my opinion, if someone never experiences the unconditional love of a pet, they have lost a GREAT blessing here on earth. Usually you can't change people's minds. And that is ok. But they do not have the right to tell you what to or not to do. And they do not have the right to try to convince you other then what you believe. Have you spoken with your Pastor about animals having souls & going to heaven? I would do that if I were you. And I would ask him to show me in the bible exactly what it does or does not say. Do you know what I mean? Even if he/she does not care for animals, he/she should still tell you the biblical truth and back up what she/he says by showing you in the bible.

Trust me, I am right there with you. I have 4 dogs, 4 cats and then several wild (feral) cats outside that I feed any time that they come around. I LOVE animals very much and get so upset when I hear folks talk badly about them.

I'd love to hear from you again, if you'd like to correspond.

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My experience is that people who have a sensitivity to animals also do to people. I do know that animals feel - elephants mourn for their dead and live in social units, as do wolves and dogs and some birds mate for life - and I think some people forget that we are animals too.

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I AM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE THAT SAY WE CHOOSE ANIMALS ABOVE HUMANS. ESPECIALLY AT CHURCH. THEY WILL SAY " ITS ONLY AN ANIMAL".IS THAT A TRUE CHRISTIAN TALKING?

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