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4/25/12 10:01 A

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It depends on the food. Most of the food that I eat now, comes from the Amish. They're not immediately local...they're in a neighboring state, but they have access to some foods that I do not. At any rate, I trust the way that they raise their food and they're close enough that I know them. I've met them and though I haven't seen their farm myself, others in our buying group have. I haven't been with them through a spring/summer veggie season yet, but once we go through that, I'll know if I also have to join a local CSA for veggies. If so, that's how I'll get local AND organic veggies.
With regard to apples, I pick my own at a local orchard.

I know this sounds very high and mighty. Don't be too impressed. I had to work out a deal with my husband (who doesn't buy into most of this just yet). We each "get" $50/week to spend on "groceries". He spends his on junk (in my opinion) like soda, but he also buys things that I use sparingly (like paper towels and commercial cleaning supplies). He also buys things like processed foods (which I avoid whenever possible), but then sometimes, he cooks them for dinner and...weak human that I am...I do sometimes eat them (like Uncle Ben's bagged rice, for example).

I use my $50/week to buy food from the Amish, or in the spring/summer at local Farmer's Markets. My plan here is - if I buy enough food to keep our fridge/pantry stocked, then there will be enough GOOD (in my opinion) food in the house that he won't feel the need to have processed junk in here.

I would say that it's actually working pretty well. He's cut back on so much processed food and soda. AND...because the Amish food is delivered to a central point and I make that pick up, and he has to go to the grocery store to get his $50-worth...he may one day stop. Who knows?

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3/4/12 6:41 P

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Grain is heard to pick local, but fresh local grain milled when you use it oh. When you know what the cows ate that fertilized the grain even better. emoticon Number 5's sun our bull liked cherries too much and died.

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3/4/12 1:11 P

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Organic and local would be the best choice emoticon

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2/26/12 10:25 P

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In that situation it's almost a toss-up for me. I go case-by-case... I tend to prefer local when everything's in season and the farmer's markets are open (I am changing locations right now and hope to be able to do this more). Our local produce tends to be mostly organic anyway, even if it isn't certified. I haven't found many good suppliers of animal products, so that tends to be regular organic, although I do still pay attention to where it comes from and it doesn't usually come from that far away.

Foods with a high risk of using slave labor I'm more likely to get local if possible, or fair trade if it's something that doesn't grow around here.

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2/13/12 9:02 A

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My co op sells as much local as possible but a lot of the organic is from Mexico. I buy in the US if I have a choice, the midwest of WI is even better. This summer I need to make a bigger effort to get to the farmer's markets. There's LOADS in Milwaukee. I go for organic because it tastes better lol besides the other reasons.

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2/6/12 10:30 P

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For honey local, Bananas any.

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1/31/12 9:16 P

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I know I'm a bit late to the discussion but, I have wrestled with this question myself. A few years ago I came down on the side of local CG vs imported organic.

I think RWSSD2011's comments are the best at dissecting the issue to its heart. Why do you choose to eat what you eat? Then make the decision accordingly.

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1/16/12 9:12 P

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I'm lucky - the big supermarket where I regularly shop makes a point of highlighting local farms in their signage. I can see not only how far away the food is from but the name of the farm and sometimes a picture of the farmer.

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1/13/12 1:15 P

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We also buy local from our farmers as soon as the Farmers Market opens up. Most of our farmers whom we purchase our produce from, do grow organically, though just a handful have the certification done due to the cost involved. All most all of them use their horses to pull up their root vegetables and not machinery, which is why the undamaged root vegetables last a long time on the shelf! The sweetness and freshness of these vegetables is unbelievable! God bless our farmers. emoticon

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1/6/12 10:42 A

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When it's possible (growing season) I buy local over organic, but I get our food from farmers that I've talked to and know their growing practices. I will chose some local growers over others. During the fall and winter months I buy organically grown, but out of state produce, from Meijer.

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1/3/12 7:52 P

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Talk to your farmers.
If the produce man at your supermarket says local, pin them down. Where? Some times that is how you find out. If You do not have conections in the country. Look up U pick farms in your county. They will tell you what they have. May be what there neighbors have also.

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11/25/11 5:57 P

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This may have been well covered by earlier posts, but I think the real difference is why you are purchasing the food in the first place. If you are shopping for organic food in order to avoid consumption of pesticides and that is your main concern (or if you are using the food for juicing, which REALLY SHOULD be organic), then the choice is easy, you buy the organic food grown from wherever. If your main concern is with living more ethically and responsibly on the planet (ie, fewer pesticide, carbon footprint and so on), then you might have to weigh the pros and cons given the produce you are purchasing and might go with local over organic. If you are devoted to buying local to support local farmers, and so on, your concern might not even be about organic foods at all. Personally speaking, I prefer organic, but buy local when given a comparable, healthy option.
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10/21/11 5:45 P

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I value local for the carbon footprint and organic for the chemical load on my body, but personally what is most important to me is maintaining the small independent farmers who aren't yet wholly owned by Monsanto. I really fear the days when one or two companies own the world's whole food supply so I'd take a sprayed apple from my nearby Easy Pickin's Orchard before I'd buy an organic granny smith from New Zealand.
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I am intrigued, and pleased, that we have so many different reasons for eating the way we do.

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I do the best I can when it comes to local, and draw the line at purchasing any produce grown outside the U.S. However, I will only buy organic from supermarkets, but I will buy non-organic from the farmers market. It all makes sense in my head...but not sure I articulated it well here!
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10/13/11 7:56 A

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Ok, so now I look up and read the fine print more, to see where the food comes from, not just if it is organic. Thanks to everyone that responded.

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10/12/11 11:30 P

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Local, though most of the local produce I buy is certified organic--or "Naturally Grown", which is the state non-certified organic program.

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10/12/11 6:17 P

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local, definitely!

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First choice: Local *and* certified organic
Second choice: Local *and* organic (not certified, but verified with the farmer)
Third choice: Organic
Fourth choice: Local, but not organic
Fifth choice: Conventional (only for certain items with thick skins that aren't eaten like bananas and avocados)

Really, the first two are interchangeable. Most of what I buy these days comes directly from the farmer, so this isn't something I have to deal with very often. However, if I were faced with the choice, I think I'd have to choose organic. I understand there is a larger carbon footprint, but I don't want to poison my body with the chemicals.



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I'd buy local even if not organically certified if I know the person who grows the apples and know that they don't spray. Apples are number 1 on the dirty dozen list . Peeling will remove the most beneficial part of the apple.
Frankly, so many people where we live never harvest their apple trees I could get a ton for free if I wanted to ask them if I can pick and offer to take extras to the local food bank. emoticon

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I'd buy the local apple then wash and peel it.

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I try to buy local, seasonal fruits and veggies. There is a "dirty dozen" list of foods you should try to buy organic whenever possible, because they are foods whose skin you eat - apples, pears, etc. and the pesticides/residues remain in the skins. But, given the choice, I choose local, to support my local farmers and reduce my carbon footprint (and I wash them the best I can).

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I don't know but I think I would buy the local apples because my thinking is how fresh is anything, albeit organic, if it has to travel 3000 miles? And it needs jet fuel to get to its destination. Having said that I do buy bananas, oranges and other items that do have to travel because I have no choice on those. These things do not grow here where we live.

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10/10/11 10:12 A

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Buy neither. I try to only buy directly from the farmer now. Most small family farms are organic, but not certified because it's too expensive. You just need to talk to them.

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I just read an article that left me more confused than informed.
The writer was confronted by two apples. One was Organic, but came from 3000 miles away. The other Local (New York State) but grown conventionally, with all the pesticides that implies.
She finally went Local, but she wasn't convincing with her reasoning.
What would you do, and why?

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