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5/10/09 8:52 P

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I'm glad you are spreading the message of how important this is.

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5/9/09 5:45 P

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Thank you. I took the survey. Good info.
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Thanks Kippy. I shared my story with you; you know how important it is to me that others never watch a loved one go through this. I really appreciate the time you have spent working on this!
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5/8/09 10:02 P

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Thank YOU Kippy, for letting us participate and for educating us!

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I misinterpreted the Alcohol warning because it doesn't say what it should say. It should say Acetemanephan (tylenol) should not be consumed with alcohol. If you must drink alcohol check with your doctor for a different pain medication.

I don't drink, but I do take OTC drugs and I am a label reader. Anna Nicole Smith was a warning for me. Even if it is prescribed it is not always wise to take them together! She was over sedated. If I took one of each that live on my shelf I too would be a dead ducky!

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I did it too. my name is not Emma but I am 48 years old. I don't know if it went through. No message told me it submitted.





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5/8/09 4:51 P

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Hello everyone!

First let me just say that I thank you all from the bottom of my heart for participating.

Here is the break out of the survey:

The median age is 41.73 years old
Education Levels:
HS Drop out: 0%
HS Diploma or GED: 7%
Some College: 34%
College Degrees: 59%

1. 86% of the respondents use Acetaminophen products. 14% do not.

2A. Of those who use the product, 31.5% have taken acetaminophen for a hangover, 68.5% have not.

2B. Of those who use the product, 46.5 have taken more than the recommended dosage, and 53.5 have not exceeded it.

2C. Of those who use the product, 24.5 have exceeded the daily limit, 75.5 have not.

3. Of those who use the product, the following would seek medical attention for overdose after consuming:
a. 3-4 Extra Strength tablets: 13%
b. 5-9 Extra Strength tablets:60%
c. 10-15 Extra Strength tablets:19%
d. 15+ Extra Strength tablets: 8%

3-4 tablets at one time is enough to cause acetaminophen poisoning. DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EXCEED THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT. This drug has a very small window of toxicity. The FDA is currently looking at possibly lowering the recommended dosage. Acetaminophen is also the same as APAP. Do not mix acetaminophen products. If the labels says it contains APAP then take only that product and to not take other products containing acetaminophen.

4. The number of respondents who knows someone who has suffered from a serious side effect. 73% did not know anyone who suffered a side effect.

5. Of those who knew someone who has suffered a serious side effect, 77% of those were due to overdose, intentional and unintentional. 33% were from another cause.

6. Of those who know someone who has suffered a side effect from overdose, 66.5% was acute liver failure or liver damage.

7. Of those who know someone suffering a serious side effect the outcome was:

a. Death: 15%
b. Permanent Liver Damage:18.5%
c. Liver Transplant:3.5%
d. Complete recovery:22.5%
e. Unknown:44%

8. The respondents who felt that it was safe to consume this product after consuming alcohol was 78%.
Those who weren't sure accounted for 10%. Those who felt it unsafe accounted for 12%.

Acetaminophen should never be consumed with, before or after consuming alcohol. My own daughter is living proof of this. The last statistic is the one that blew me away. I was certain it was just me and maybe a few others who misunderstood the label warning. I am standing in the majority....well within the majority. I cannot tell you the amount of times I have beat myself up for misinterpreting that label warning. Why, according to this survey, its as clear as mud for most.

Up to 52% of all liver transplants in the USA are acetaminophen related. Of those, 50% is unintentional overdose. Intentional overdose has a better chance of recovery because they knew they had overdosed and the medical community can give a product that counteracts acetaminophen toxicity binding with it rendering it harmless. The trick is getting them to the hospital before the acetaminophen has been fully absorbed preventing any further damage.

By the time unintentional overdose cases seek help, it is usually too late for the medical community to intervene other than hope for spontaneous recovery or try to list the patient for transplant. I found another survey that stated that one third of the acetaminophen cases related to ALF had no evidence of over dose. This means their liver failed after consuming "safe" dosage amounts...or amounts that were deemed as safe by the FDA. I think we can guess where they get their information from.

I suspect the reason we fail to hear of most of these cases is the that often times part of the conditions of any type of settlement involves a gag order on the victims and their families. As a mother of a transplant recipient, I can tell you that my daughters anti-rejection meds cost us $265 per month out of pocket after insurance. It is easy to see why victims accept these conditions. Without those meds, they will die. They need the money to stay alive. If my daughter runs a temp over 100 degrees, its a trip to the ER or doctors office. Over 101 degrees, its a stay at the hospital transplant center. Last fall she spent a week in the hospital because she got an infection from flossing her teeth. Her immune system is suppressed so an illness for her is a very big deal.

Our false sense of security in taking this product has got to be addressed. Is it they just aren't saying the words right to get the message across? Is it the romantic commercials we see on the television?

Europe has taken steps to control this product by reducing the package size to 16 tablets per pk and it is packaged in heat sealed blister packs. It is dispensed from behind the pharmaceutical counter allowing the pharmacists to further educate consumers as to the risks.

I found it frightening as to the number of comments that indicated that they felt they were well informed as to drug side effects, but then went on to misinterpret the alcohol warning.... or that it is up to the consumers to research the products they are consuming in over the counter medications. How many consumers don't have access to the internet but unlimited access to the drug? How do they research the medications? If they are making it available to all, then they have to make the side effects available to all and transparency of those side effects is critical to reducing the number of unintentional overdoses, transplants and death.


I hope in some small way this helps those who read this to make a better decision or to better understand the devastating side effects of this drug.

I never thought such a small amount could have killed my girl... I never knew it was deadly with alcohol. I read the label. But I couldn't read what the label didn't say...and in this situation, we are lucky, she is alive. I remember at the hospital one of the many doctors told us it only take 1 gram of acetaminophen after consuming alcohol to cause liver failure. One gram is just two tablets....a safe dose.

Be safe.
K.

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And you have been included.

Thanks!
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I completed it, too, even though you had your number. Guess I just wanted to be one of the gang!

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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

We have reached 100!!! Thank you! A million times thank you!!!!!!!! I will post the results by the end of today.

SPARKERS...YOU ARE AWESOME... TOGETHER WE MAY JUST BE ABLE TO CHANGE ONE SMALL WRONG IN THE WORLD~~~~~

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I hve just completed the survey

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Just one more to go...it would be a shame to let this rest with being one away from 100... PLEASE...anyone left out there?



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Wishing you luck...and don't forget to tell us how you made out....

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I just completed the survey.

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I did it the first time you asked.

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Hi Everyone, I am just two away from 100 respondents.

Is there just two people out there who would be willing to fill out the survey that will be presented to the FDA in June?

www.jackpinewebdesign.com/sur
vey.html


I know there two out there who can tie this up and finish it off...its for a good cause.

Thanks!



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