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5/5/10 6:51 P

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Maureen, your post on 5/4 was great... and makes a lot of sense to me as well. Betty

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5/5/10 3:12 P

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I consume 2000 to 4000 calories a day, I just tracked it the best I could. I eat burgers and steaks, so you kinda gotta guess a bit. I do not seem to gain much weight. If I eat until I am stuffed as opposed to just full, I will gain a bit, but not too much.
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You summed that up very nicely!
Good job.
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5/5/10 1:03 A

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Hello everyone,
This is an article that I read that started me on a low carb eating program.
When you eat fewer carb foods—relying mostly on vegetables rich in fiber—your body switches to burning fat (including your own body fat) instead of carbs as its primary fuel source.


Get an exit pass off the blood sugar roller coaster. When you digest carb foods, they convert to glucose (sugar), which your bloodstream transports throughout your body. A rise in blood glucose level triggers the release of the hormone insulin, which moderates your glucose level. (For more information, see The Role of Insulin in Managing Blood Sugar.) So carb intake is largely responsible for blood sugar fluctuations. Food need not taste sweet—think mashed potatoes and white bread—to convert rapidly to glucose.


Because your body can store no more than half a day’s energy supply of glucose—unlike our ability to store almost limitless amounts of fat—it makes sense that we burn as much carbohydrate as we can as soon as it’s digested and absorbed. After each carb-heavy meal or snack, your body stops burning off fat as your insulin level escalates to deal with the rising tide of blood sugar. Fat calories are always pushed to the back of the line—where more than likely they’re stored. That’s why insulin is called the “fat hormone.” As long as you keep making glucose into fat, you’re doomed to being heavy.


Fortunately, it doesn’t have to be that way. That’s why cutting your carb intake and eating mostly whole food carbohydrates is the core premise of the Atkins Diet.

By changing the balance of carbs, fats and protein in your diet, you boost your energy level and keep it on an even keel. When you eat foods composed primarily of protein, fat and fiber, your body produces far less insulin. And when the carbs you do eat are in the form of high-fiber whole foods, which convert to glucose relatively slowly, your blood sugar level holds steady, along with your energy level. You don’t crave a fast-fix energy booster in the form of sugary, starchy food. And you’re less hungry at meals.


This perfectly normal process of burning primarily fat for energy has a welcome side effect: weight loss. There’s nothing strange or risky about a primarily fat metabolism. In fact, fat is your body’s back-up energy source. The ability to carry a “fanny pack” of energy in the form of fat actually helped our distant ancestors survive in times of famine and when hunters returned home empty handed.

Just to be clear, eating fats doesn’t make you fat as long as you give your body permission to burn them. Place the blame where it belongs: overeating and overreacting to carbs. And herein lies the not-so-secret secret of the Atkins Diet and the key to weight loss—and later weight maintenance—without cravings or undue hunger.I hope this might be of some help to you.
Maureen.


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5/5/10 12:17 A

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When I first decided to start a low carb diet, the carbs versus calories dilemma was my main concern. I haven't actually read any low carb program books, so I don't REALLY know the details about Atkins, South Beach, Zone, etc. I just try to eat less than 30g of carbs per day and call it good. However... I do question it sometimes. I found that a lot of low carb diets DO suggest a calorie limit of 1200-1500 calories per day for women, yet I've also heard that some people don't even count calories, just carbs.

My question is, what if one consumes less than 30g of carbs, but somewhere around 2500-3000 or more calories? Would that person still lose weight? Because the low carb programs suggest a calorie limit, how do we know the weight loss we're experiencing isn't just because of the limit of calories and really have nothing to do with low carbs?

Is there anybody out there, preferably a woman, who's been on a low carb diet and doesn't necessarily COUNT calories, but is still pretty sure she's consumed well over the limit, say 2500-3000 calories per day for more than a day, and still managed to lose weight? THESE are the women I'd like to hear from. I'd like to make this a lifestyle change, but I do believe it's only temporary to see how it goes... if I'm going to diet low carb for awhile and try not to exceed 20-30g of carbs per day, and 1200-1500 calories per day, why pay attention to carbs at all, because counting calories will surely help you lose weight in itself? I know it's probably a double whammy doing it both ways, but I duno... I guess I just don't fully believe that you can eat as much low carb foods as you want (as long as it's under 20-30g of carbs), and not count calories and still lose weight, especially if the calories well exceed the suggested limit.

Anybody I'm hoping to hear from have something to say? Would love to hear your low carb experiences with carbs/calories.

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5/4/10 9:20 P

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Thank you so much for all of the replys,it confirms that what I am doing is right, and the part that I need to make work is to move more or walk, and because of the pain in my knees and feet,I dont do enough of that.
I am enjoying the way I am eating ,and will continue to chart everything I put in my mouth.
I know it has to come off in the end.
Have a wonderful day .
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Welcome to my World,we can do this journey together.

final goal at this stage to be 180 lbs
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5/4/10 8:15 P

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I agree with Betty,and the 60g of carbs(good carbs)because if you get 25-30g of fiber that ends up good net carbs. I think 1200-1500 cal and at least an hour walking,3-4 miles.



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5/4/10 3:04 P

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I try to eat less than 1200 calories a day and try to make those 1200 low carb as well. (It works "most" days). I figure that will cover my bases!! I do know that if I strictly stick to the low carb, I can eat a few more than 1200 and still lose. emoticon But I really try not to obsess about any of it.

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5/4/10 2:55 P

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I have no idea how many calories I eat, but can tell you to a tenth of a gram how many net carbs I've consumed.
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5/4/10 9:54 A

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I used to track my calories when I first started, it was a habit. But, now I just eat until full. Some days I eat a ton and other days not so much, no idea how many calories. I am zero carb, so my carb level stays the same unless I eat a few eggs one day.

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5/4/10 7:24 A

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I don't worry about net carbs either. To me, a carb is a carb. I try to keep my calories between 1200 and 1700 a day, and try to keep the carbs at 15 to 20% of that. That's it. Other than staying away from the white refined flours and sugars, I eat pretty much what I want. Lots of meats, veggies, fruits, eggs, and cheese. Not many grains. No pasta, no rice, no milk. I don't concern myself with fat at all. It works for me.

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5/4/10 12:48 A

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Hi Betty ,
I agree with what your saying, I dont care if I dont get back to my real low weight, but just want to lose enough weight to feel good about myself,feel confident and more energetic so as to be able to join in with friends if they want to dance,and I know losing weight will make a difference to my joint pain in my feet and knees.
I am type 2 diabetic, but control my sugars with good choice eating and I dont touch white sugars ,flour etc. and I choose low carb products and love my vegies and meat ,fish, poultry .
But I get confused when even though my net carbs are 25-30 for the day, but in calories add up to more than 1800..my Doc says dont worry about the calories . its only the carbs that matter.
I guess if I keep doing what I am doing , in the end it has to come off.
I loved your post Betty and look forward to hearing more from you.
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Welcome to my World,we can do this journey together.

final goal at this stage to be 180 lbs
I will decide how much lower I can be without looking haggard in the face,I have happy memories of being able to dance and walk and feel good at this weight.


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KICK-SS's Photo KICK-SS Posts: 9,649
5/4/10 12:28 A

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Hi Maureen, I just had to make some comments on your post tonight. First of all, I think for sure that we don't lose as fast - no matter what we do as we get older. When I was young I could drop weight with no problem!! NOT anymore!! emoticon

I've finally, after probably trying every diet known to mankind have come to the conclusion that the bottom line is calories in vs. calories out! Now, make those calories lower carb calories, I think you get more bang for the buck... I think that our bodies need the variety of foods and nutrients and that a specific diet, even low carb, just doesn't cut it if you don't get the nutrients you need.

You lose a lot of water weight with the strict low carb and thats why so many gain weight when they start adding carbs. I'm trying to eat in a way that I can eat the rest of my life - and more of an "all things in moderation" with the emphasis being healthy meats, veggies, fruits and some breads, but not so much.

I'm down about 35 pounds from my highest, I have my biggest problem when I start eating sugars and white flour stuff (bread/doughnuts/biscuits, etc.) So, I try and stay away from that. And with that type of carbs, the more I eat, the more I want - so I try and not eat so much of that.

Years ago, I lost 50 pounds on Atkins - meat, eggs and cottage cheese was about all I ate for quite awhile, but when I started adding things back in - then the weight came back on, so......

Anyhow, now I just try and eat "lower" carb foods, stay away from the white stuff and emphasize lean meats and veggies and some fruit.. (more veggies than fruit). I seldom eat potatoes, and when I do its usually a sweet potato.

There is no way I can lose weight now, (I'm almost 72) like I could when I was younger... the metabolism is slower and I'm not as active as I was 35-40 years ago... Things change over time and it's just not worth it to be to make myself miserable and feel like I can't eat something that I might want. I'd rather be a little overweight and happy than skinny and miserable! Anyhow, thats my opinion on the whole diet thing. I do "kind of" try and follow the phase two part of the South Beach Diet as a guideline, not written in stone.

So anyhow, those are my thoughts and my own philosophy over the whole weight thing. I think I kind of got to rambling a little there, but hope maybe it helps a bit.
Betty

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5/3/10 11:03 P

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Hello everyone,
I remember many years ago when I first heard of Low Carb eating,my Doctor back then. told me to forget counting calories and as long as I didnt go over 60grms of carb a day I would lose weight at a steady pace.it was back in 1969 and I was asked to maid of honour for my best friend.
I bought a book with a carb counter on the cover that was like a clock. and I stuck to it to the tee, and in 3 months had lost over 2 stone in weight and felt fantastic.
I now find that most people are doing induction etc, and only having 20 net carbs a day . before going on to OWL. but they still seem to be asked to keep calories to a certan amount,women 1500-1800 Cals a day, or are told they not losing because they not eating enough and are in starvation mode etc.
I have spoken to a few other friends who say they get sick of the swapping and changing .as they get very confused.
Can anyone else relate to this? is it because of our age difference that we dont lose as much as fast?
Or should we just accept we lose slower as we get older, and to stop stressing , and just enjoy our meals ,knowing we cant have more than 60 grams a carb a day, and be happy to lose 4 lbs a month. as its a way of eating for life?.
My Doctor told me I put too much pressure on myself and that if I was to vary it and have 30 carbs one day ,40,50,or 60 grams another day . and as long as my total carbs for the 7 days were no more than 420 grams .over the year it would be a good result , and I would have a bigger variety of food choices.
I would love to hear what others think please, and look forward to the feedback. I am 65 yrs old.and want to lose 100lbs
Have a great LC day .
Maureen

Welcome to my World,we can do this journey together.

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