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3/6/14 12:55 P

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CD833620 Posts: 42,077
3/6/14 9:30 A

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WEll, it is NEVER a good idea to offend the pink money....

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3/5/14 4:28 P

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3/5/14 2:18 P

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Jan's morality can be bought with dollars and cents..AZ would have lost tourist dollars and industrial and sports dollars bigtime had she signed this garbage into law.

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3/4/14 9:15 P

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These are acts of desperation. The writing is on the wall and these Pseudo-Christians are going to try to continue to deny rights to anyone who doesn't mirror their demographic....any way they can. They want a license to discriminate....plain and simple. Most of the country does not agree with them and I hope that more and more stand up and say so.

Jan Brewer isn't anyone's idea of a saint and I won't say it took guts for her to veto Arizona SB1062. Lets just say that she didn't fail economics and she would have to be an idiot to sign that bill.



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3/4/14 8:43 A

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I know Bridie, I know.

BRIDIE5 Posts: 8,121
3/3/14 11:30 A

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Most of us don't think the situation is OK..Willam and many of us see the clear and present danger of legally discriminating against any group of citizens.. because once discriminatory laws are in place, there is precedent for extending the discrimination in all dirtections. I don't want it extended toward any one, in any direction. At the same time this attack on the LGBT community is being waged, similar Laws are already being pushed forward inhibiting women's rights. Make no mistake tho..this is not because it is what the citizens want.Our lawmakers no longer care to represent us..they prefer partisan politics, and bills and measures that please their corporate campaign contributors. the only way to fight this is at the polls..and by inundating Governor's offices with protests against signing this cr@p into law. Which is what we have been doing.

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3/3/14 10:50 A

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I am concerned with this wave of laws to allow discrimination. Although those laws aim to the LGBT community, it is an open door to discriminate any and everything.

I do think that Arizona Governor vetoed the bill for economic reasons. It is said and does not change my opinion about the State.

It is just said that people think that this kind of attitude is OK.

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2/27/14 8:03 P

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Too bad her decision was based on financial considerations and not morality.

Val

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2/27/14 2:47 P

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Excluding AZ 15 states are playing around with this kind of legislation. Meanwhile, AZ Governor has vetoed this bill today. Probably her incentive is threats of boycot by Apple and the NFL, rather than her non existant anti discrimination principles , but if it will fly, I'll ride it. Good for you Jan you old bat!

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2/27/14 10:30 A

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BTW, Mississippi is jumping on this bandwagon, too.

www.clarionledger.com/article/201402
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So sad all the discrimination straight White Christians face every day. Why, if we don't take steps, they won't be allowed to hate ANYONE. How could we allow that to happen.
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2/27/14 10:20 A

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I propose that every private business be allowed to discriminate against any customers of whom they disapprove - provided they post clearly on their front door who they will not serve, in large, red letters, along with their reason.

"WE REFUSE TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO HOMOSEXUAL OR BLACK CUSTOMERS BECUASE OF OUR CHRISTIAN BELIEFS."

"WE REFUSE TO SERVE WOMEN BECAUSE OF OUR MUSLIM BELIEFS."

"WE REFUSE TO SERVE BIGOTS BECAUSE OF OUR BASIC HUMAN MORALS."

That way, they are free to do as they please, but even those of us who wouldn't be discriminated against know which businesses we would like to frequent and which we would rather avoid. Let the market decide which of those businesses survives.

One of the problems with allowing discrimination is that those of us who are white, hetero and middle class may not ever know it's going on. We walk into a business and order a cake or book a photographer and it just goes normally. We may not know that an hour ago, that same bakery refused to provide a wedding cake to a very nice couple just because both parties were the same gender, but if we DID know, we would walk out.

I bet if they were forced to advertize their discrimination, a lot of these "sincerely held beliefs" would suddenly become a little less sincere.

Also, I think the policy must be at the business level -- not individual employees. If you take a job at a bakery that does not have a stated discrimination policy, and you are a fundamentalist Christian who thinks all gays are going to burn in hell, you can be fired and your employer could be sued if you personally refused to fill and order for a gay wedding cake.

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2/27/14 7:51 A

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I'm sure by now everyone has heard about the Arizona legislature's attempt to pass a bill allowing business owners the right to reserve service to patron's based on their personal religious beliefs.

While the media has been focused on the possible refusal of service to people in the LGBTQ community this bill has effects that are much farther reaching than just that one community.

According to "Christian" religious beliefs that would also open the door to anyone breaking The Ten Commandments and the Seven Deadly Sins.

So based on my limited understanding of "Christianity" I'll start a list of the people that would be refused service.

Liars
Thieves
Adulterers
Those that have used the Lord's name in vain
The envious and jealous
The lazy
Murderers
Over-eaters
The greedy
The vengeful
The proud
Non-Christians

I'm sure we can expand on this list.

So If Christian business owners are going to refuse service to those who don't follow their personal religious beliefs(sinners) who will be left for them to serve? Or as most "christians" seem to do, pick-and-choose?

Will patrons need to wear patches on their chests so that the owners can easily identify whether you fit their qualifications as a "customer?"

If "a sin is a sin" and one is no worse than another wouldn't these owners desire that the law extend to all those who have sinned?

Hey, I know who they can have as customers! Pedophiles and wife-beaters!


Val

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