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9/7/16 7:34 P

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Looks like you have been working at this for a very long time.

I know what you mean that there are days that emotional eating gets the best of us. It must be all that cortisol working against our good intentions. Today I feel vulnerable but am doing good so far.

Kay

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Your worst enemy cannot harm you as much as your own unguarded thoughts.
Drop judgment and pick up love.
If you can move a grain of sand a day, eventually you will move a mountain.
Crappy choices bring crappy feelings.
Can'ts are joy limiters.


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9/7/16 8:11 A

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Oh trust me, I KNOW with 100% certainty that I am NOT hungry. I am stuffed to the gills and yet I will eat. It is not false hunger. It is not hunger at all. I am the queen of satisfying myself with a tiny portion. I can eat a spoon of ice cream and be so very happy. A lot of people don't understand that. I am the queen of ONE potato chip. But when I am at work and am bored, I want to eat. Maybe the cortisol is part of it because even though it is very boring, it is terribly stressful and I have a bad commute too. I talk to myself all day and tell myself I am not hungry. I am not doing this mindlessly. I am fully aware of it when I eat too much of something. But it happens....fortunately not often, but enough for me to know that I must always tread with care.

Gloria

"but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint." Isaiah 40:31


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9/6/16 9:01 P

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"Every person has 60,000 thoughts every day and most of them are subconscious and deeply rooted. If you've ever struggled with your weight, chances are that you suffer from negative self talk. When we doubt ourselves and we have the endless negative mind chatter in the background of our lives it puts so much stress on our bodies. The body senses the stress and acts as if it is in a state of emergency and and thinks there's a famine. The stress hormone cortisol is released which causes weight gain.

The theory behind this thinking is that your THOUGHTS and your BELIEFS cause your feelings. Your feelings inspire and contribute to your ACTIONS. Your actions produce your RESULTS. Most of us and most diet programs only focus on the actions (diet and exercise), thereby ignoring our thoughts, beliefs and feelings. Track down any negative self talk and change it into a positive sentence. A few words or a phrase to tell yourself will help relax your anxiety."

I found the above article helpful. I can usually nip false hunger in the bud if right away I tell myself I am not hungry. Sometimes I am not aware of false hunger thoughts until they are demanding - once again I recognize they are false hunger thoughts and I will indulge in a meditation treat. I will serve myself a small portion of the desired food, eat it very slowly, enjoying every little morsel. Usually, after 4 or 5 bites I am satisfied.



Kay

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle you know nothing about.
Your worst enemy cannot harm you as much as your own unguarded thoughts.
Drop judgment and pick up love.
If you can move a grain of sand a day, eventually you will move a mountain.
Crappy choices bring crappy feelings.
Can'ts are joy limiters.


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9/5/16 3:12 P

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Hi IAMJOYFUL. I have maintained for three years, and generally I eat an exceptionally healthy and nutritious diet. But I still have binge tendencies. I stay in my range by eating very healthy foods and I run...a lot. Lots of half marathons. But these binge tendencies, I tend to eat even if I am not at all hungry...even if I am stuffed. I can no longer keep almonds or dried coconut or any amount of chocolate at home or work. If there are french fries or sweets before me, I might very well eat them. A few months ago I ate over half a pound of chocolate one afternoon at my desk at work. And I will just gorge myself with almonds. If dried coconut is around, forget it. It is still a slippery slope for me. I try to indulge in those treats away from home so that I don't have the temptation of multiple servings. That way I don't feel deprived but I still get to enjoy a treat every now and then. After three years of maintenance, I am beginning to suspect that I might always have these inner battles and wars with food. Most of my eating happens when I am bored. I have a frantically busy job, but it is boring work. One thing I do is try to snack on things like grapes or cherries....one at a time. And they last a while and a cup of grapes isn't too many calories. So as such, while I pretty diligent about what I eat, I am also very aware that I have to be really careful not to let myself get caught in the trap of eating stuff like that. I am a healthy eater but I am still transitioning and trying to get a handle on this situation.

Gloria

"but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint." Isaiah 40:31


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9/5/16 12:29 P

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Gloria - Do you still consider yourself a compulsive eater. It seems you have overcome it if you have been able to maintain your weight for three years. I like the idea of focusing ones mentality to that of a healthy eater. Words are important.

AJ - Thanks for the best wishes. I agree a good attitude is very important in weight loss.

Kay

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle you know nothing about.
Your worst enemy cannot harm you as much as your own unguarded thoughts.
Drop judgment and pick up love.
If you can move a grain of sand a day, eventually you will move a mountain.
Crappy choices bring crappy feelings.
Can'ts are joy limiters.


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9/4/16 10:13 A

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The idea of transition vs. maintenance is an interesting one. For me as a compulsive eater, I think that I will always be transitioning. For three years now I've been maintaining my weight (even with the pounds I've put on, I am still in range). I am transitioning my mentality to that of a healthy eater...eating when I am hungry and enjoying the food - and making healthy nutritional choices.

Gloria

"but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint." Isaiah 40:31


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9/3/16 8:32 P

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best wishes to you! A good attitude is the most important tool in maintenance or weight-loss

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IAMJOYFUL2's Photo IAMJOYFUL2 Posts: 4,256
9/2/16 10:02 P

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Physically I am a transitioner, Mentally I am a maintainer. emoticon
I have been losing and gaining the same 5 lbs for the last 20 yrs. I once again have lost 5 pounds but this time I am going to keep on losing.

I call myself a maintainer because I now stay within my calorie maintenance range and my weight is transitioning to that calorie level.

I am relearning to eat intuitively and I have excellent role models - my little grandchildren. They eat when they are hungry, they eat what they like (if they don't like something they will spit it out), they enjoy what they eat and they eat just enough to be satisfied (they are in a hurry to get back to playing. Until eating intuitively once again becomes second nature I keep track of my progress in a little notebook on the table (the notebook also serves as a reminder.) I plan ahead and have been on target. When I slip, I will use it as a learning experience and go on.

Kay

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle you know nothing about.
Your worst enemy cannot harm you as much as your own unguarded thoughts.
Drop judgment and pick up love.
If you can move a grain of sand a day, eventually you will move a mountain.
Crappy choices bring crappy feelings.
Can'ts are joy limiters.


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9/6/15 7:12 P

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I agree with MOONDUSTIE.....::: Physically I'm a maintainer. Mentally, I'm a transitioner.


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9/6/15 4:47 P

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Thanks for this, you're helping me to think about all this in a new way.

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9/5/15 4:39 P

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So this has been moved back to the big maintenance sparkteam for now, pending a democratic name vote. But it gave me some interesting things to think about.

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9/5/15 6:48 A

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What is Transition to Maintenance. In physical terms it seems to involve approaching either goal weight or sometimes people reach a point of maintaining that wasn't their original goal. That gets at how and why people set the goals they do.

This got super long so I turned it into a blog:

www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
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MOONDUSTIE's Photo MOONDUSTIE Posts: 190
9/4/15 11:59 P

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I'd like to spend more time with this team. Much friendlier right now than SteadySpark. SteadySpark seems like a stressful place right now, and none of us need more stress!

I'll be transitioning to maintenance for a long time, possibly the rest of my life, because I spent my first 60 years as a dieter, usually an unsuccessful one. It is very hard to trust my appetite to guide my eating. I'm getting more confident but it still takes a lot of attention to stay at my goal weight. So far, so good. Physically I'm a maintainer. Mentally, I'm a transitioner.

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9/4/15 7:24 P

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I was on this team for awhile, but cut back my Sparking for other things in my life and just kept up with a couple of teams. Now there seems to be an unnecessary war on the other team over a name change. Go figure. I just want to be around people who are at goal and don't have the support of a social culture to support an invisible endeavor. There is more cultural support for wearing acrylic nails than for maintaining weight loss.

I'm not sure what "transitioning" really is. I was told when I lost my weight that the more I learned to love the process of losing weight, the better I would be able to keep it off. I had to change my entire outlook on what it took to control my weight, but I did it while I was visibly losing weight. I was surrounded by like minded people in Weight Watchers, who, once you get to goal, send you out into the world pretty much alone. The "transition", if there was one, was to do everything I did before, but without support. Who needs that? On Spark, maintaining is no longer a lonely slog. I don't care what the team name is, it can be Fred for all I care. I do care about the content and the willingness of people walking my walk to share their experience, strength and hope.

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9/3/15 2:53 A

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Makes sense.

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9/2/15 9:48 P

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The main reason is that the team formerly known as At Goal and Maintaining + Transition to Maintenance has been rebranded SteadySpark: At Goal + Maintaining.

At the time I was envisioning this team, I had a lengthy dialogue with 4A-Healthy-BMI and TinaJane76 about the possibility of adding more psychological content to AGAM+TTM. They had thought at various times about changing their team name so it was less focused on being at goal. There had been prior discussions about it, and one of the suggestions to come out of that was Losers Keepers. I contacted the person who suggested it, and she said I could use it for a new team. I don't think they every took moves to change the name because as much as it would be good for people to start thinking maintenance while losing weight, there are also a lot of people who are rightly proud of achieving their goal.

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