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5/15/17 10:19 A

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Happy for you that things worked out well. Congratulations!

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5/14/17 8:18 P

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Glad the move worked, and congrats on your graduation! emoticon

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5/13/17 4:49 P

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As an update, I chose the "move" option. It was the best choice given the situation. Better news, after finishing my final project/ practicum/ portfolio, I graduated yesterday with my MLIS/ MED! Yay!

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2/3/16 9:55 P

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Thanks. Great response.
I appreciate that you picked A or B and elaborated on your choice.
That's all I was looking for.

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2/3/16 6:09 P

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I have my MLIS and MEd, if you are able to find a fully online program that accepts your MLIS credit transfers and are interested in a fully online program for your MEd as well I might be able to help you with a $2,000 scholarship at the school I got mine (if they will take your transfer credits).

If they won't or you aren't, my opinion is that you should move. While the job market is tough overall an MLIS holding librarian can find a job anywhere, and not just in a traditional library - the skills are incredibly transferable. And getting that one year head start will help, especially if you're trying to find a job in an area with few personal contacts.

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2/3/16 4:00 P

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I just want to clarify that I'm not looking to get around the problem. I've tried what I can to find an alternative and there isn't one. The decision is the decision.
I'm just looking for an opinion on either:

A) stay and take the risk of the transfer to preserve my job
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B) move and preserve the graduation date but lose my job

I feel like many of the responses are suggestions for how to avoid making the decision, not realizing that these are the best two options I have. A or B.

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2/3/16 12:38 P

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The courses I need aren't offered online anywhere that I've found, and I've been looking for a year. I've found them "on campus" at a local state college, but there's no guarantee they'd transfer. (Not transferring would cost me the tuition plus another year waiting to graduate.) The school won't pre-approve courses as equivalents before I take them. (Which I've had at every other school. Grrr.) I haven't looked into transferring courses to another online school because I wouldn't get the same degrees. I'm in a dual-degree program. If I transferred, it would mean I'd be trying to get 1 degree instead of 2 in the same time-frame. I could stay at the school I'm at and do that, so no benefit there. Good idea, though.

Thanks for the suggestions. I hope you're able to find a job.



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2/3/16 10:18 A

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It's a tough situation. I'm surprised they would make you take classes on campus if you were promised an online only degree.

I'm currently an unemployed librarian and the job market is not great out there. I can understand wanting to stay in your current location with your current job and not move, especially if you can do your practicum where you are currently working.

Have you considered looking at other online schools to see if they have the courses you need or if it's possible to transfer your credits to another online school for the same degree?

I wish you the best of luck and hope you find a solution.

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2/2/16 12:23 A

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Thank you everyone for your replies!
Please keep the suggestions coming, and I'll provide replies to the questions you've asked.

Ok. There is ZERO possibility that these courses will be offered online. It's either take them on campus through the school, or take them at a different school and risk paying for courses that may or may not transfer plus the year delay in graduation if they don't.

There are no substitutions I can make for these classes. The classes I need are the exact courses I must take to graduate.

If I took one class and tried to transfer 1 instead of 3, it would still delay me by a year -- regardless of the outcome -- because I wouldn't have the classes I needed next term to take my final practicum.

I am very close to graduation. The summer term will be my last term before my required practicum, which I can only take after I've taken ALL other required courses. I did delay this issue by taking all of my other courses in the hopes that maybe the courses I need would be offered online, because I'd been told it had been in the past, but it won't be. After 2 years of watching the schedules, it hasn't been offered online. I've been informed they won't be in the future.

Personally, I believe I was lied to that these courses were ever offered online. All the propaganda associated with the program said it was an all-online program, but I believe there was some misrepresentation, so I don't believe there's any possibility of being "grandfathered" in. I give them the benefit of a doubt that this was a "recent change," as my advisor was surprised when I informed them that these courses were on-campus only. The reply: "Really? They used to be online." That was over a year ago. So, no help there.

The decision is still: A) quit job, move and take courses at "home" college so I'll definitely graduate on time (but no cost-sharing and no salary), or B) stay put, keep my job and risk (time and money) taking courses that may or may not transfer (but continue cost-sharing plus job salary).




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2/1/16 8:45 A

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Tough decisions for sure!

I suppose there is no such thing as being "grandfathered" where you were told when you signed up that all of your classes could be taken online?

Likely there is no one right or wrong answer, just different ways of achieving the same goal. I wish you the best and success whatever you decide.

You will be successful either way!

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1/31/16 9:53 P

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One more thought...how close to graduation are you? Could you take some other classes, leaving those 3 on-campus classes for your last semester(s)? That would help minimize the cost/job issue.

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Is there any possibility that these classes will be offered online in coming semesters? While I was working on my MLIS, a few of the classes that I wanted to take were changed from online to on-campus for a specific semester, but were offered again as online in the summer or the next fall. That of course, will differ from university to university.

Second, since you were told that you would be able to complete it 100% online, is there any way to substitute classes that are online and still fit your degree requirements, even if it isn't exactly what you had planned?

If you want to try taking a class at a local university and transfer credits, I would recommend trying only 1 and then seeing how it works out. Better to find out that 1 won't transfer than 3.

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Yes. Yes, it is.
That's why I'm here asking for feedback.
I'm open to listening to others' opinions on the issue.
A decision doesn't have to be made this moment (just soon),
but I feel like I need "friends" to give me some input.
And what better friends are there, than Sparkfriends?

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1/31/16 2:41 P

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Wow, that is a tough decision!

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Hi. I'm in school for my MLIS/MED, and when I signed up, I was told that all my courses would be online. However, due to a recent change, 3 courses I haven't taken are now offered on-campus only. This wouldn't be a problem, but I live in a different state.

Choice 1: Take the courses (over the summer) at my local (major state) university. I have shown the course titles and descriptions to my advisor, who thinks they'll be considered equivalent, but can't guarantee it. The school will only evaluate a course as equivalent AFTER it has been taken (and completed with a passing grade). Several people have thought their courses would be considered equivalents, only to be told otherwise when they tried to transfer them to the program. This solution would allow me to keep my current (PT library) job and apartment (cost-share w/ roommate), which is an obvious benefit. (Particularly the not-looking-for-work and reduced cost part.) If the courses don't transfer, however, I would be out $5500, and it would add a year to my graduation time. (Waiting for them to be offered again at my "home" university, b/c I wouldn't make the same mistake twice.)

Choice 2: Take the courses (over the summer) at the "home" university of my program in a different state. The courses would be guaranteed to count towards my program. This solution would require me to quit my present (PT library) job and relocate to a different state. I would definitely be able to graduate on time, however, finding another job would probably be difficult, and there would be increased living expenses from no longer cost-sharing with my roommate.

One friend tells me that the risk of not graduating on time (and wasting $ on courses that aren't guaranteed to transfer) is too big a risk, and I should take the courses on campus at my "home" institution to be sure to graduate when planned. Then I'll be able to get a better-paying, FT position sooner. Another friend (my cost-share roommate, who is admittedly probably thinking of their own financial difficulties if I move), says it's worth the risk to take the courses here and try to transfer them so I can to maintain my present (PT library) job, b/c the market is so rough for jobs, library or otherwise. (IE: the more experience I have the easier it will be for me to get another job, and it's easier to get a job if I have a job, versus trying to get one as an unemployed recent graduate.)

Both options will require me to take out loans for tuition. The "home" institution will cost less in tuition, but more in living expenses. Staying where I am and transferring will cost more in tuition, but less in living expenses. (And I'll still have my job to offset the costs.)

So, I'm essentially trying to decide what's more important: a big risk to possibly save money and preserve my job, or no risk and I'll definitely graduate on time but I'll have to move and it'll cost more to live alone without a job.

Any feedback/ considerations /input I could get would be appreciated. I'm too close to this issue right now to look at it objectively. I flip-flop daily on which would be the better choice.




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