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5/20/13 4:51 P

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Carol

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Surgery Date: 12/17/2012
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5/20/13 10:33 A

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I sometimes have a sensitivity to milk, it just depends on the day...it's weird. I never thought of that before...that's a royal pain in the butt! Uh! I just bought another brand and at least I was able to drink it all and it didn't suck as much..lol Now we'll see if I get a stomach ache.

I got an email back early this morning that answered most of my questions, so I don't think I'll bother calling them again at this point. Like I said, normally everyone else I've dealt with has been awesome, so I'll give them a free pass for this one. I do actually have my doctors cell phone number, but totally didn't want to call him for those questions. So at least if there's an emergency, I do have an on call number, but while I was irritated, it was able to wait. *Only* 8 more days to go..... :P

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5/20/13 12:05 A

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Are you milk, lactose or whey sensitive? Many people are or become so after RNY and then have problems with whey based protein drinks. If you go to a health food store they will have a variety of other protein drink options for you to try. Many have samples you can buy and try out.
Surprisingly many cream of xxxx soups do not have the carbs that we think they should have if we made it from scratch. Most of the pre-op meal plans allow around 10 to 15 grams of carbs. which is probably about what is in the cream of potato soup.

Good luck and when the surgeon does call ask why they did not get back to you within 24 hours which is standard at most medical practicies. Especialy since you were have a reaction to what they prescribed. You need to know how to get hold of the surgeon quickly if you have a problem after the surgery. There should be an on call number for times when the surgeon is not available.

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5/19/13 11:04 P

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That's odd you say about avoiding carbs...they have me eating cream of potato soup, cream of wheat, etc...that's full of carbs, isn't it? lol I actually figured out I think I was getting grumpy because I really haven't had much protein in the last 3 days. The protein shake I got makes me sick, I'm waiting for delivery of new shake options, so in the meantime it's been throwing me out of whack.

My doctor's office is usually on top of things, but I left them a voicemail and sent an email on Thursday night and didn't hear back on Friday. I'd give a day or two, but we have a weekend in here and I feel they really should have tried to make sure to get back to me before the weekend. So I'll make sure to contact them again tomorrow if I don't hear from them.

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5/19/13 10:53 P

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Mindy, I will definately pray for a skinny liver by day of surgery! Fatty Liver is serious and could affect the success of the surgery. So you are correct to follow the surgeons diet. Removing carbs and fat usually does the trick.
I assume that you are wanting something with a little crunch or chew? Ask your dietician if there is some veggie or nut that you could have in a small quantity so that you do not feel so deprived. Let the dietician know what is going on and then he/she will speak with your surgeon and figure out some way to help you.

The first 5 days of a low caloried diet are the hardest. So hang in there in a couple of days it will get better. For me 4 almonds helped me get over food craving during that pre-surgery diet time. Apples have good crunch so maybe you can get permission to eat a small serving of crisp apple. You can probably get some info about about fatty liver syndrome on webmd.com especially about the kind of diet to reduce the liver size. It will probably be very similar to the start of the pre-surgery liver shrinking diet! When you are having difficulty it is much better to call the dietician and get some ideas for what to do to get beyond the food cravings.

Good luck!

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5/19/13 8:00 P

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The benefits are certainly there. Speaking from recent expereince.

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Location: Upstate, NY
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Surgery Date: 12/17/2012
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5/19/13 7:41 P

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Hi, MINDYHGP:
I have a similar concern as you do regarding the surgeon closing you back up and not performing the surgery that day. Two members of my WLS support group had that occur to them. On the day of surgery their livers were deemed too fatty to safely perform the surgery. I cannot say if they followed the pre-op diet to the letter, but something went wrong for them to get so far only to not get the procedure done. I just want everything to be optimum - pre-op testing ok; a successful surgery, no complications and steady recovery. I know some pain and discomfort will be part of this life I am choosing but the benefits will be so much more than I have now.
Best wishes on your surgery as well!

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5/19/13 6:50 P

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Learn211, I'm on a similar diet as you, but mine is for 10 days. I'm 3 days in and I'm struggling majorly today. Yesterday and the day before wasn't too bad, today for some reason I'm needing a food other than pudding, jello, soups, shakes, etc. It's really really hard today.

I have FLS (Fatty Liver Syndrome) so my doc definitely needs my liver to shrink. Maybe low carbs, or some other diet type thing would work, but I'm not willing to risk it not working. I know my doc will close me back up and send me home if my liver didn't shrink enough.

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I begin my two week pre-surgery diet on May 27th. I will be drinking protein shakes, V8 juice, and I am allowed to have a few soft sugar free foods such as yogurt, some hot cereals, and jello pudding. After reading all of the posts, I was a little jealous that some of you got to eat veggies, and other foods that aren't on my list. But, after giving it some thought I realized that each of us has different medical conditions and starting weights, so our medical teams chose what is best for each of us. So, now I am happy again, and ready to do my best. I can't wait to read all the different posts after our surgeries. I hope we all have a blessed surgery and have good stories to tell. Happy Sunday!

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5/19/13 9:12 A

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I was only on liquids the day before my surgery, but I had to lose 10% of my body weight or else my surgeon wouldn't do the surgery and to show them I was committed.

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every team has a different diet. Mine was similar to the Slim Fast diet - 2 shakes, a meal, and several snacks of fruit.

My friend (and lots of other Sparkies) have to do all liquids for 2 weeks. I don't know if there is any right or wrong way.







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My pre-op diet was a combination of protein drinks and one lean meal with non-starch veggies for carbs and since I was a diabetic they wanted me to have two fruits for snacks.

So if your surgeon wants you to eat a certain diet based upon your medical conditions then it is best to follow the surgeons advice. If you have questions then do ask them. If you want to drink protein drinks (I hate them myself and only find two or three palettable) then discuss why you feel they are better for you. Are you getting more nutrients, are your getting more or less calories from the drinks. Personally the drinks and pureed food part was the most difficult for me. For me food had crunch and chew so liquids are more like torture. Give me real food! Raw veggies and now I even like fruit and it satisfies my craving for carbs.

Each patient has a pre-surgery diet that is based upon their surgeons experience, the dieticians expertise, and the patients medical history. No two pre-surgery diets are the same.


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5/18/13 11:04 P

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My surgery was 1/22/13, my pre surgery diet was 2 weeks of no carbs at all, and then 1 day of clear liquids the day before the surgery. It worked well for me and the surgeon said my liver had shrunk like it was supposed to. Believe me, that was one of the first things I asked because I was little nervous that this method wouldn't work!

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Hello everyone:
I was given my surgery date yesterday by the surgical team. My question is about an optimum pre-op diet. My doctors want me to follow the South Beach Diet 2 weeks pre-op and 2 days of liquids only leading up to surgery day. After reading the many posts of surgery vets, I questioned them about why only 2 days of liquids and the answer is they found it to be as successful in shrinking the liver as 2 wks of protein shakes. What has been the team's experience? Did you feel you did better post-op when your diet was a liquid one for 1 wk or more? I don't have a problem confronting the surgeon about what I have learned through researching, but want to make sure I don't go against his wishes needlessly.

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