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7/10/13 3:49 P

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If you are into statistics. These are the ones I was told and I have seen it mentioned in a number of books I have read on weight loss surgery over the years.

RNY patients tend to lose about 75% of the amount that they are overweight. Some books said 50% of amount you are overweight. It really varies but 75% is the most common and the lowest I saw was 30%

so that would be for example (these are just number examples and how much we excise and what food changes we make will affect these numbers). The actual numbers are based on height, build, age, genetics, etc.

If you started at 250, and your normal bmi would be at a weight of 135. Then statistically you would be 115 pounds overweight and 75% of 115 is about 86 pounds. and at 50% would be about 58 pounds. These may be the surgeons expectation but how much we lose really is unknown. We just need to try to be the one who exceeds all the expectations and becomes a normal bmi & weight!


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Proximal Laproscopic RNY 9-10-10
Start Wt: 228 5-21-10
Surgery Wt: 205 9-10-10
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7/10/13 11:18 A

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I totally understand how you feel. Its hard not to compare yourself, to want more, to be the star patient. I want that. Not many people will say it, but I wanted it to be easy. I wanted the weight to fall off. I secretly hoped Id be one of those people who were never hungry and only need to live on vitamins and protein shakes and a small healthy meal here and there.

Give it some time. I know it sucks to hear. Stay off the scale. I heard that so many times and didnt listen. I weighed in about 2 weeks out and hadnt lost a thing! I ended up losing 28 lbs my first month, then barely 5-7 lbs a month. My highest amount of weight loss was going from 298 to 225. My dr goal was 160. My goal 190. That lasted about 24 hours. It sucks. I have to face that we are all different and Im just not meant to be thin.

I have a friend who had surgery who now looks like a skeleton. LOL, stupid me, I wish I looked like that. I take my vits and get my protein and Ive just gained 30 lbs. she has been eating crap since she got home from the hospital for cryin out loud! Ive had not one, but two different surgeries and still need to go on a diet.

Excuse my own rant in there. Not saying you are going to be like me, but just give it some time. I know its hard.

Oh, I developed reactive hypoglycemia around 8 months out. I dump as well, that started about my second week. Its not fun, but it does keep me in some kind of check.

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6/16/13 7:23 P

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The surgery is totally worth it. The weight will come off as long as you stick to the plan. Exercise will happen whether you put an effort into it or not. Your body will push you to do things physically like walking more, jogging or even running. These things happen like you are on automatic pilot.

Congrats on losing 15lbs in 2weeks. That is great! The more you get used to your new tool the more you will appreciate your decision. Best of luck to you on this journey.

Chynna

Making it happen 1 pound at a time.

Never give up no matter how hard it gets.

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6/16/13 2:56 A

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Toni, Congratulations on the changes you have already made! You are right to start the changes now! You may want to try a pool exercise class or just water walking as that will create less stress on your joints and feet. But do buy some supportive water shoes (not the $10 one with no support!) You may want to see a podiatrist to have your feet checked to be sure you do not have a problem that could be fixed with some kind of shoe insert or orthotic.

Not certain what you job is but can you once an hour walk around the floor for 5 minutes? That would be 60 minutes of walking at the end of a 12 hour day. I go from work to the pool and exercise and then go home. If I go home I will not go out to the gym! If you are at home how about doing hand weight or resistance band exercises at home during commericials if you are watching tv or put on one of coach Nicole (sparkpeople) resistance band or hand weight exercise videos.

You have worked hard to make food changes so I know you will figure out some way to get at least 30 minutes of exercise each day.

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Cindy - A Co-Leader on Gastric Bypass Sparklers
Proximal Laproscopic RNY 9-10-10
Start Wt: 228 5-21-10
Surgery Wt: 205 9-10-10
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6/16/13 12:42 A

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I haven't had my surgery yet, hopefully by August, I am a type 2 diabetic, the insulin isn't working anymore. The only hope for me to live to a ripe old age is to have the surgery. I have started eatting with a baby spoon and fork, putting fork down for 1 minute and only eatting 20 bites in one sitting. My problem is the exercise, my feet are bad due to diabetes. So I just eat less. I downloaded a chair exercise video, and that is helping. I hope when some of the weight goes my feet won't hurt so bad. I have lost 20 pounds since April. If I only lose 30 pounds this year at lease I didn't
gain. We didn't gain over night so we won't lose over night. You will only get what you work at, if you want to lose fast exercise more, or eat less. That's what they told me all my life. I always have had very physical jobs,
so by the time I get home from working 12 hours I ready to sleep. So exercise has been hard for me. On my days off I would run around with the kids, but that didn't seem to be enough. So I am not going to worry about the numbers, and just remember one day at a time, it is not a race.
Thanks for being there. Toni

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6/16/13 12:09 A

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I haven't had my surgery yet, hopefully by August, I am a type 2 diabetic, the insulin isn't working anymore. The only hope for me to live to a ripe old age is to have the surgery. I have started eatting with a baby spoon and fork, putting fork down for 1 minute and only eatting 20 bites in one sitting. My problem is the exercise, my feet are bad due to diabetes. So I just eat less. I downloaded a chair exercise video, and that is helping. I hope when some of the weight goes my feet won't hurt so bad. I have lost 20 pounds since April. If I only lose 30 pounds this year at lease I didn't
gain. We didn't gain over night so we won't lose over night. You will only get what you work at, if you want to lose fast exercise more, or eat less. That's what they told me all my life. I always have had very physical jobs,
so by the time I get home from working 12 hours I ready to sleep. So exercise has been hard for me. On my days off I would run around with the kids, but that didn't seem to be enough. So I am not going to worry about the numbers, and just remember one day at a time, it is not a race.
Thanks for being there. Toni

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6/14/13 3:51 P

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After abdominal surgery of any kind your hormones and emotions are all over the place for around 6 months to a year. Much or our hormone release is triggered by the stomach and small intestines.

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Cindy - A Co-Leader on Gastric Bypass Sparklers
Proximal Laproscopic RNY 9-10-10
Start Wt: 228 5-21-10
Surgery Wt: 205 9-10-10
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6/14/13 9:53 A

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We all have 'those' days. SP is the place to vent and get support.

Those with courage enough to write that they are not perfect, not feeling all sunshine and roses and are actually mad/sad/ insert your feeling here as HELL, in my humble opinion, help me MORE than those that only post 'good' stuff.

So today is a new start. And believe me, we ALL need new starts again and again. Otherwise we wouldn't be here, right???

Let's congratulate ourselves on our successes and keep on keepin' on.

I've found WLS was MORE than worth it and I'm betting you will too.


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High Wt 296
Surgery Wt 270
Low Wt 184

Currently battling 19 lb weight gain due to grief & stress of losing my dad in Nov 2013.

"So much has changed yet who I am finding is my old self again." DSCROW's blog 8/1/13


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6/14/13 12:11 A

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Thank you for apologizing and I'm sorry if I was a bit testy myself. It's been a difficult day, emotionally for some reason and just needed to vent. While my doctor's office is great, I seem to hear different answers depending on who you ask...you'd think everyone in one office would be on the same page, it's just frustrating.

I'm following all the rules with vitamins, protein, calories, etc to a "T" (where did that term come from anyway?) it's just exercise that is my nemesis.

Tomorrow's another day and hopefully I can get on the ball with the exercise as well. I know the process will work, I need to be patient and allow it to work.

Thanks again, I'm glad I still feel support here.


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6/14/13 12:01 A

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I apologize I do not think you are an idiot and I did not mean to insult you. But it really did sound to me like you thought you did not have to do anything but have the surgery. I am sorry that I mis-interpreted what you were saying and caused you more distress. This journey is a roller coaster ride for all us myself included. I really do want success long term success for all of us.

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6/13/13 9:46 P

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At no point did I think the surgery was a magic wand and that I had to put no effort into it. I am well aware that it is a tool and I have to still work at it. Like I specifically said in my original post "I didn't expect a free ride, I didn't expect it to come off with no effort on my part, what I DID think would happen is that it wouldn't be as hard as it was before. I was able to lose 50 pounds in 3 months BEFORE but I was also eating 1200 calories a day and working out 60 minutes every day. "

I was completely honest and up front with every doctor, therapist, nutritionist that I spoke with during this process, including my specialist who recommended it for me 2 years ago. And, no, none of them said it was a magic cure...I'm not an idiot.

I'm not comparing myself to others. I'm comparing myself now and what I need to do to myself 3 years ago and what I did then. It seems there is little difference for similar results. Granted 15 pounds in two weeks was not attainable before the surgery and is not what I'm complaining about (which is ALSO what I stated originally) but I did lose 20+ pounds my first month then.

Perhaps I am having a little pity party for myself today....I am allowed to have a bad day here and there and I somewhat understand comments to give me a "wake up call" but honestly I found this response slightly insulting.

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6/13/13 9:32 P

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This is going to sound harsh but you really sound like you need a wake up call!!!!!!

Ok as to 15 pounds in two weeks that is 7 1/2 pounds in a week. I never lost that much in week not before or after rny. I was lucky to lose 1 pound or occassionally 2 pounds in a week but for most of my weight loss I lost maybe 2 pounds a month. Remember the rny is a tool not a cure. I guarantee that no medical personnel ever told you the surgery was a magic cure for obesity.

We are all unique with our different heredity, medical conditions, eating patterns, emotional issues around food, and many other things. So, in other words stop comparing yourself to others. Why are they losing well ? who knows but they are probably following the surgeon and dieticians food plan, they are exercising every day, they are changing what and how they eat. So stop comparing yourself to others and get real. You must exercise not just play at it put a lot of effort and energy into your exercise. Exercise whether it is fun or a chore you must do it. You must follow the food plan to the letter! .You must eat less and exercise more and drink lots of water (not juice, not calorie protein drinks, not pop,just water).

Deal with your issues so that you can be sucessful long term You definately sound like you need some counseling to help you learn how to make some changes in your lifestyle.

I am curious how did you pass your psych evaluation when you believe that you do not need to do anything to lose the weight and that the surgery was supposed to be the magic wand that cures your obesity? You control your success and it is hard work. So address your food issues and exercise issues and your unrealistic expectations by calling your surgeon and ask for a referral to a counselor. A counselor can help you change your relationship with food and then if you start following the food plan, exercising vigrously every day and you will see the pounds gradually come off. Slow or fast makes no difference as long as the pounds come off.


I know what I am saying sounds harsh but you have to stop the pitying yourself. I am struggling to re-lose the 25 pounds I regained after my fathers death last year. How did I regain. I was at the hospital and not exercising, I went back to some back food choices, emotional issues started to interfer with everything new I had learned. But now I am back on program. I vigorously exercise more days than not, am seeing a counselor, learning biofeedback, working on my food plan and learning new ways to redirect my thoughts when I get a food craving. I have worked harder to lose weight since rny then I ever have in my life. But it works as long as we work hard to enable it to work.

cindy

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Proximal Laproscopic RNY 9-10-10
Start Wt: 228 5-21-10
Surgery Wt: 205 9-10-10
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6/13/13 2:15 P

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Now, I'm not sure where you live or what type of "pre-surgery" requisites you had to meet, but I had to go thru A TON of stuff for them to say yes. Part of it was two informational sessions on "what" the sugery can do if you use as a tool, it is not meant to be a "quick fix". They tell you that this surgery will help you meet your weight loss and health goals faster if you also agree to stick to a low sugar, carb and fat diet along with regular exercise. I'm not sure why you're shocked. If you do not add these changes and just count on the surgery alone, the weight will not stay off. These doctors want to be sure that you keep the weight off they're helping you take off. You have to fix the reason you got this way to start with. We have to learn to work out daily, we don't have to like it, but we know in order to stay healthy, we have to do it! There's no question. 15 lbs in two weeks is amazing. It's much too early for you to doubt yourself. I had my RNY over a year ago and have lost 120 lbs. I wouldn't change a thing. Even with the complications. There are also several groups on Facebook that are super supportive and helpful with these questions.

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6/13/13 1:50 P

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I'm basically copy and pasting the blog I just wrote here so I can maybe get some feedback or something....I'm really bummed right now. :'(

I'm so frustrated. I know 15 pounds in 2 weeks is great and I'm not complaining, but I just got a text from a friend who had the surgery the day after me. We're of similar weight and health. This is what her doc said....
"Since we aren't 'that big' it won't fall off us as quickly or easily. Could take more self discipline and exercise, but still doable."

Now, I'm sitting here thinking, if I had self discipline and exercised, I wouldn't have needed the damn surgery in the first place!!! I expected to have to work at it somewhat, but I really wanted some major weight loss to help jump start me and give me motivation to do the exercise and what-not. Having the surgery was NOT worth 15 friggin pounds!

I have major struggles with exercise and motivation. I always have, I've tried everything under the sun for exercise to make it "fun" and I just don't enjoy it...anything. Walking, gym, dance, videos, by myself, with others, nothing...and I don't even feel "good" after exercise, I feel hot, tired, sweaty and irritated that I didn't enjoy it.

And getting on the scale for the 6th day in a row and seeing the same number is pissing me off. I thought people usually say they think "was the surgery worth it?" when they're dumping or sick or dehydrated....I'm not doing those things, but I'm totally thinking it right now! :(

Also to add I am aware 15 pounds in 2 weeks is great, not complaining about that and if that were to continue it would be amazing. I don't expect to lose a pound a day forever...I don't even expect to lose a pound a day in the first month, but I'm concerned about the doctor's comments only 2 weeks post op that it'll take MORE discipline and won't come off easy. I didn't expect a free ride, I didn't expect it to come off with no effort on my part, what I DID think would happen is that it wouldn't be as hard as it was before. I was able to lose 50 pounds in 3 months BEFORE but I was also eating 1200 calories a day and working out 60 minutes every day. If I have to do all that AGAIN, WHY was the surgery necessary????

"Those that care don't matter, those that matter don't care." -unknown author



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