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8/9/13 1:03 A

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Well done for your positive attitude. Down moments are just that. There are a moment. Deal with them and move on. Platinum wrote it perfectly. You bother because you deserve the be the best you can be. I may well adopt this as a mantra! emoticon

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8/1/13 8:05 P

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emoticon JOCMOM and emoticon back to SparkPeople and the team...Nice to have you with us on the journey to a healthier lifestyle again. As for why to start over...because to deserve to be best you can be! emoticon emoticon

You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face.

Mistakes are the portals of discovery.

Don't be afraid to give your best at what seemingly are small jobs. Every time you conquer one it makes you that much stronger. If you do the little jobs well, the big ones will tend to take care of themselves.

It is never too late to be what you might have been.


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7/27/13 11:20 A

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Looks like I over estimated the market for Swedish Fish. Here, in Philly, just like soft pretzels, they are considered their own food group by some fans. Admittedly, I was one of those fans until recently.

According to Wikipedia, they're distributed out of New Jersey, so that may explain why they're so popular here in Philly.

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7/27/13 11:10 A

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I live in CT and never heard of Swedish Fish either, probably a good thing. If your husband brings home ice crams and fishies again after your asked him nicely not to, ban him to the garage. That is being mean. I think he may be insecure and doesn't want you to lose the weight. My BFF's ex wife use to do this to him. When he would try to lose weight, she would get a big bowl of popcorn with extra theater butter and eat it in front of him and smack her lips. She would laugh at him when he ate chicken and say that he was going to turn into one while she ate pizza and junk. Meanwhile he lost weight and she ballooned up another 25 or so pounds.

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7/26/13 9:33 P

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I know... Everyone thinks they're an actual fish. I'm not certain Sweden is happy with the fact that they aren't an actual fish. lol

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7/26/13 9:09 P

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Oh............ so NOT what I was thinking - I was thinking along the lines of REAL fish - LOL!

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7/26/13 8:50 P

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Swedish Fish are a cherry gel candy that are addictive and delicious. They are very popular here in the Northeast of the US. I worked in Atlanta for a year and ordered them from the manufacturer. The entire office was addicted by the time I left.

Think gummy bears only softer, sweeter and a stronger cherry flavor.

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7/26/13 8:40 P

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What is "Swedish Fish" ???

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7/26/13 8:14 P

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You're doing great already but don't flog yourself for a Swedish fish or two. Flog your husband. Swedish fish are "dirty pool", as my mother used to say.

Make everyday an adventure and you'll keep on the right track without so much pressure from yourself.

You rock!

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7/26/13 5:16 P

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I am so glad to hear that someone else has done these things with food. I am going shopping today and am vacation from work for the next two weeks. I am determined to make this a one day at a time focus. But each day to be a day I can be proud I did not slip again. I am more determined than ever. I do not know if my husband will be on board, as he has been bringing home the ice cream and Swedish fish, after being given request not to. I have decided that I can look at this as a challenge to stay away from them, I will keep you posted. emoticon

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7/26/13 4:57 P

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Hi. Welcome back. Slimmerkiwi has said everything that I was going to say. I know it is very hard to stick to it, everyone has tough days. I am in maintenance and really struggling right now. I am faking it until I make it again. I went back to fast break goals--5 minutes of stretching a day and respond to posts. I will get my spark back. emoticon

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7/26/13 12:24 P

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YEAH!!!!! Awesome! Love the new spirit in your voice. Good things all around.
Go for it!

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7/26/13 12:20 P

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"why bother?" We all ask ourselves this question about our weight and so many other issues that life brings us. I'm a bit of a goof, so don't be surprised that this sounds a bit strange. When I feel this way I remember Pandora's Box. Though it was filled with evil at the bottom was the Spirit of Hope, Elpis. No matter what we go through, hope is still there and it's why we "bother".

Everyone is giving you great advice but you need to decide what works for you and what changes you can make. I was like you not too long ago.. just weeks ago (like, two weeks ago). Lunch and dinner were piles of ice cream and desert was a box of oreos. I kid you not. My morning cheerios and fists full of vitamins were the healthiest thing I ate for months. I was in a bad place and then I did a web search and found this site.

Here I was able to use the tracker to see exactly what little changes meant to my body. First fast food was out, to save money and to cut obvious bad calories and contents from my diet. To do that it meant I had to buy food more often and make the effort to prepare it and clean up after myself. Believe it or not, those are issues for me.

Look at your first steps and the steps to make them happen. See your trees through the forest. Notice how little things change how you feel. I've been amazed by how my joints improved by taking a supplement for them and how I can do simple things I avoided, like stairs.

Don't think you need to do 100% of the changes at one time.
Choose. Adapt. Notice. Enjoy. Continue.

My sweet tooth seems to be off set by truly savory foods. Lately portabella mushrooms, goat cheese and steak have been super enjoyable and kept me from the oreos and ice cream. Experiment a little. I go out and order things I've never had or have no experience making. If I can make it at home, I don't order it. (this doesn't hold true for Sea Urchin - avoid the sea urchin at all cost... YUCK!!)

Try to substitute adventure with your food choices for the comfort you've sought in them till now. Then, pay attention to your body and how it reacts to your efforts. Find enjoyment in those feelings. Notice them for the accomplishments that they are. You're "stick to it" will improve when you accept all the steps you take as accomplishments.

Today is day one for all of us, so is tomorrow, and the next day. We're always starting, not starting over. Starting over implies doing the same things over and over. Make little changes everyday, in your eating or your activity or your perception, and you won't be starting over, you'll just be starting.

New. Different. Variety.
Perception. Accepting. Joy. Hope.

Think on these things and we'll see you tomorrow, and the next day, and the next.


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That's a great start. I'm glad you let us know. You're going to call for an appointment today, yes? I really hope so.

If you think the protein drinks will serve a worthwhile purpose, okay, but remember that they have calories. When you see the dietitian, you may want to talk about the drinks. They're generally not recommended at any surgery practice once solid foods are allowed a couple of weeks after surgery. Getting all of a day's protein from food is more satisfying.

It's not a pedometer that needs to be taken seriously. They're not particularly reliable tools, anyway. Taking the [physical] steps is more important than counting them. That's not to say counting is pointless. As the steps mount up, we feel encouraged to keep going.

I still urge you to find a support group. If your practice doesn't have one, you'd be welcomed in group at another.

That's enough from me...for now. I tip my hat to you.
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7/26/13 11:45 A

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Thanks to all, I have decidd to make an appointment with the suregon and begin again. I am going shopping and will buy fruits instead of candy and icecrem. I think I went to the candy and ice cream because they went down easier. I think I will also return to the protein drinks too. Today I hae finished breakfast (290 calories) am taking all the vitamins and meds. I bought a pedometer but have not been serious.As far as the therapist, if I find myself slipping into this funk again I will contact someone. I have decided that tracking and checking in here more often will be god for me as it will hold me accountable. Again thanks.

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7/26/13 11:21 A

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The others have given you such good advice and I agree that returning to your doctor is a great idea. They expect people to experience problems, I'm sure, and that's just part of the process.

I'll just add that I've been struggling, too, and have been so disappointed and frustrated in myself especially lately. I can't seem to stick with a plan - every day I log what I've eaten and I've been going over my caloric goals every day - until yesterday. What helped me yesterday was to go ahead in the morning and track everything I was planning to eat (allowed some treats in there, as well).

Another member of Spark plans her eating the night before - that way, when she wakes up, she already knows everything she's going to eat for the day and as long as she sticks to that, she's okay.

I added the treats to my plan yesterday because I KNEW I wouldn't stick to it otherwise. I'm going to try to continue this "planning ahead" technique and see if it continues to help me - it's worth a shot since nothing else has seemed to help much.

Hang in there - as long as we don't give up, there's hope. emoticon

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7/26/13 10:38 A

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I've been here a long time and I'm heavier now then when I started. I just started over again. Why? I'm going to die if I don't figure this out. I have 2 friends who have lost part or their feet due to diabetes. I've been diabetic 15 years. So, I'll try again. It's hard to make lifestyle changes when the food I'm addicted to is always in my grasp-but that won't change as long as I live where I do.

I hope you find your reasons to keep trying.

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7/26/13 9:53 A

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Honest feedback. If you didn't want to lose weight and become healthier, you wouldn't have come here. No one asks permission or for reasons not to "bother." Giving up doesn't seek company. There's a vast difference between feeling fearful to commit and not bothering.

I, too, have a band and I've probably done or heard it all. The people at your surgery practice have seen and heard it all. They are there to provide follow-up care because they want you to succeed. They'll know you're embarrassed, ho hum. Make an appointment. See the dietitian, discuss a band adjustment with the person who handles that and reconnect. In an ideal life you'd be at your ultimate goal and maintaining happily. You, as I, need to stay connected to expand our support system. Find a support group and attend the meetings. Track everything you eat and track all your exercise. You made a great start five years ago and you can get back in the groove.

You already know that a lot of the health problems you have improve greatly with weight loss. There's really nothing to be said there.

Vent all you want, but when you're really venting at yourself, don't waste too much time on it. When you know what you want, you'll be able to get busy. It's not an overnight proposition. One step after the other is beautiful.
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I noticed Kris' mention of your food tracker, so I took a look. Your tracker is a scary place. Unless you're half-way around the planet from the U.S., to have consumed 2400 calories of junk before 10 a.m. EDT says that something is going on in your mind and heart. If you want to lose weight and become healthier, those need as much attention as your scale. Do you see a therapist? There are therapists who specialize in working with people who have eating disorders. If you need a referral, the surgery practice may be able to help.

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Hi - you ask 'why bother?' re starting over again. Well, the why bother? you have answered:
"I continue to have other medical issues that I thought would go away and have not, blood pressure, sleep apnea, the desire for sugar, better eating, more energy, and less artritis pain. The sleep apnea number went up not down at the last visit. the blood pressure remains the same with pills, still have edema every day and nothing else has changed."

My cholesterol and blood sugar issues didn't normalize until I had lost a fair bit of weight, and almost reached my goal.

I had a wee peek at your Nutrition Tracker, and with the one current entry, there were a lot of candy, flavoured milk, ice-cream, etc. entries. I know that you will be aware of this because you mentioned your desire for sugar. It COULD be that you aren't eating any or much healthy food, so your body needs energy from somewhere and sugary stuff is the real quick-fix that the body will tell you it needs. In actual fact, if you ate some protein and piece of fruit you may find that they craving reduces.

What were the recommendations given to you when you had this procedure, re nutrition and exercise? Perhaps revisiting those recommendations might be enough to kick-start your journey again. Don't feel embarrassed about going back to the surgeon about this problem - it is, after all, a very common one. What you may find helpful is some therapy to help you with the emotional stuff that helps to prevent you from moving on! Your Surgeon may be able to refer you to someone qualified in this area.

Also, you have still lost a lot of weight - there are many who have this procedure and don't lose any.

I suggest that you weigh ALL of your food and enter it ALL into the nutrition tracker. Don't try to change everything all at once - just remember the baby steps method. It might be having a piece of fruit instead of one or two of your candy bars - it might be swapping the flavoured milk for some water. It might be walking a little bit further than you would normally in a day. When your mind/body has gotten used to those changes, add something else to the mix.

Good luck, and remember - we are here for you. Keep in touch on the message boards so that we can better get to know you which will help you with that support to get you through.

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7/26/13 2:49 A

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Welcome back. I think you need to stop looking at weight as a diet. Look at as being a lifestyle change. Drink plenty of water and start off slow with your workouts. If I need something sweet I will use a special k bar, fruit or yogurt. that will curve the taste for sweets.

"Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still."


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Hi, I have not been on this site in a long time. I kind of want to vent, but want honest feedback too. I feel I am constantly starting over, now that I am sabatoging myself. I also know I have help from well meaning people at work and home, both to do harm and support. The harm I do not think is on purpose, I do not now. What I do know is that after 5 years of having the lap band surgery, I have been at the same weight 220-230 for the last year. I started the process prior to surgery at 305 and the lap band has been able to help me maintain. I have not gone back to the surgeon out of pure embarrasement. I continue to have other medical issues that I thought would go away and have not, blood pressure, sleep apnea, the desire for sugar, better eating, more energy, and less artritis pain. The sleep apnea number went up not down at the last visit. the blood pressure remains the same with pills, still have edema every day and nothing else has changed. I want to give up and am stateing to hate that I ever had it done. Any input would be appreciated. I seem to have little "stick to it in me. "

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