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10/5/19 12:51 A

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I hope all is well in your adventure Cindilp. Tomorrow we are having a flea market, a bouncy-castle, Magician performing, and a BBQ plate fundraiser. I helped drag branches cut to clear the areas involved, measure out the pre-purchased plots with flags, and put up signs. I got a lot of walking done but not much else. I have learned some things about our pastor who just resigned and his wife.

The pastor spoke fairly often of Wesley's first do no harm by avoiding evil practices, especially as generally engaged in among our fellow citizens. I would have to add that it also means citizens within our local church. There are certain practices that seem to be favorite sins among folks within denominations that like to point out how special they are.

The pastor who resigned should have dealt with his divisive, controlling, snide wife who drove away folks from the community and the congregation. Amazing isn't it? First do no harm? That was also followed by "Do Good", then "Stay in love with God".

When faced with bad actors within the local affiliated churches of the United Methodist Church, openly and exposed to be doing secretly that which is not only considered criminal theft ($21K by one person), destruction of church papers and corporate documentation, as well as things against clear Christian teachings given by God in the Scriptures, what is the remedy? Really, where would I find the sections of Church media that explains how to address multiple aggregious sins and moral failures.

I'm willing to listen, even to wait for a response. I'm hoping that someone can help me support the victims left behind and the disciples of Jesus picking up the pieces.

You can sparkmail me if you'd prefer so that I can give you an email address you can contact me with outside of this social media forum we call Spark People. But let me remind anyone reading this, that such behavior even among unbelievers in our pagan cultures is considered vile by the average person. I think we are held to a higher standard personally and spiritually I know that we are.

This involves prominent churches in the region, including two who historically have opposed the UM church I'm a member of now and were opposed since its founding 79 years ago. Folks in the now, retired, ordained, still in pulpit, et al., shameful.

I'm not even near perfect, but I know someone who is.


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10/4/19 12:11 A

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I agree.

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10/3/19 12:49 P

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Praying for all those who are suffering due to gun violence in the state of Texas, and for clarity of purpose to be insisted on by Christians in standing in the way of those who don't mind who they hurt.

Sloganeering, blaming the victim, ignoring the facts and circumstances, presumption based on the race, ethnicity, education, income level of individuals involved, all this has got to stop coming from folks who claim to be disciples of Jesus. For it is not just a nice thought to have that we are to submit to God by faith in the Father through the person of Jesus by the indwelling Holy Spirit.

If you do not do what is right, sin is crouching outside your door waiting to master you.
That's what God says.
What do you say?

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8/23/19 6:55 P

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The principles for spiritual maturity rang true long before a young Wesley saw it in Moravians, long before the Reformation, even prior to St Augustine. It is said a couple different ways but succinctly it runs like this from God's mouth to our ears:
Do justice, love mercy, walk humbly with your God.

The lifestyle of being true to one's having God as one's Father is truly freeing, as well as so against our old-nature. Many a devout person made their spouses and families pay dearly for their personal spiritual devotion in practice and principle. Let's first do no harm to our family, and let the little light shine from there, eh?

The world's culture doesn't need encouragement to be self-centered, and everything faithful to God in Methodist life of faith today does not point towards being myopic or self-absorbed.

Pray about everything, all the time, in all circumstances, in every way so that we will be found together being faithful as the Bride of Christ.

Keep sparking please.

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4/8/10 2:05 A

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I agree with some of you, do no harm, also applies to your body, don't harm it by not moving, not eating correctly, etc. Live a healthy lifestyle and reap the awards!

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2/27/10 12:51 P

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Its basically Sparkpeople in a book and more. I read more of Chris Downie's story and some of the back philosopy of Spark. They talk a little about the program later in the book. If you want an introduction to the book, check out the article in the February GoodHousekeeping. Its basically a condensed some of the stuff in the book.
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2/27/10 12:43 P

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I have not bought the book yet. Is it really different from other diet books? What is it about?



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2/27/10 12:27 P

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Spark might be perfect for your friend. Spread the Spark is one of the things I like about Spark. Spreading the Spark as a diet step, sets it apart from any other diet site I've been a part. Not sure what influenced Chris Downie (Sparkguy), but its very Wesleyian and very Christian for Spread the Spark.

You might want to encourage your friend to read The Spark Book.
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I have a dear friend who was diagnosed with a disorder that many do not understand. She finds it difficult to give back because of some preconcieved notions, hers, her doctos and the community.

Her Christian heart is prompting her to find a way to set a good example. I am trying to lure her to Sparkpeople and to join a team with others with the same issue.

Doing "no harm" I think also means to not pre-judge people till you have walked in their footsteps.

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2/26/10 7:50 A

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Absolutely! I have discovered that by eating healthier, I feel better, and my spirit is raised. I had only an inkling that eating chips, eating twice, three times the serving portion, sitting around watching tv ~~ all adding to my tendency to be "blue" during these sunless winter months, was doing harm!

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That would apply to the cookies and pizza I ate for dinner and am now paying for at 2:30 AM. Do no harm to our bodies when we eat.

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2/25/10 11:24 P

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It seems to me we also need to learn how to apply these "three little rules" to ourselves. Learning to live, to think, and to act in ways which "do no harm" to ourselves.

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2/15/10 11:56 P

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What is so great too is that it is a 600 member congregation, large for our part of the country. Each week we are looking to perform some act of outreach: maybe serving the poor, visiting the hospitalized, sending a greeting card to a homebound individual. There is an Apostles Build through Habitat for Humanity that the church will be part of later this year. I am eager to see what God will do through this study for me personally and for our congregation as a faith community.

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That is really neat. We did Three Simple Rules last year. But, I love the concept and never tire of them. It will be fun to hear from you what you learn as you journey through the Three Simple Rules.
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During Lent, our entire congregation is in the theme of Wesley's Three Simple Rules: do no harm, do good, and stay in love with God. Not only will the Sunday worship messages encompass these rules, but also our mid-week Lenten communion services, our Sunday school at all ages (children, youth and adult), classes studying the Three Simple Rules during the week, and a Retreat set for the end of this month. I look forward to hearing what is being shared through this thread.

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Cathy: I agree with you.
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I need to work harder on being nicer to my husband. Afterall, he is the person who hangs in there with me through thick and thin.

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"Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility regard others as better than yourselves. Let each of you look not to your own interests, but to the interests of others." Phil. 2:3,4

As Bishop Job put it, "To no harm means that I will be on guard so that all my actions and even my silence will not add injury to another of God's children."

Sometimes, I'm accused to being too nice, especially by one of my coworkers. I've decided that its okay. I like to think of it as kindness and gentleness which are Fruits of the Spirit.
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How do we live as "Methodist Christians?" Discipleship is a key component of Christian life. John Wesley created his "General Rules" to guide him as he strove to grow closer to God. The first of those rules is: "Do no harm."

How do you apply this in your life?

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