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Day 70 No Good or Bad

I tried to make good choices with food and exercise today (made the choice to go to the zumba class today and really enjoyed it).

I know less good choices does not make me a less good person but have to keep trying to consider making good ones!

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Day 70 No Good or Bad

Eating off plan is not immoral or illegal- it doesn't make us a bad person.

It is not a good choice for our health or our happiness- peace of mind.

Be kind to your whole self - body and mind.

That is the goal - I am pretty good at not eating junk too often, my biggest struggle right now is with portions and that is what is making my journey to goal weight longer and slower than it could

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Day 70, 100 days No good or bad

This is a beautiful concept of no good or bad. Making choices daily is a challenge. So being grateful that I have money in the bank and can buy groceries is a true blessing. I strive to choose with wisdom so the food I eat is a benefit to me. In this way I do not think I am being waistful.

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I do label my choices good or bad sometimes, but I'll try to remember to say healthy or unhealthy choices and make mostly healthy choices. Like yesterday, in my head before I read this I was thinking how bad I ate yesterday, but in reality it wasn't all bad, most was healthy, so yesterday I ate mostly healthy foods and that is good. (oops!) :)

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11/8/19 8:00 A

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Day 70 - No good or bad.

This reinforces some earlier lessons about making choices that move us forwards or backwards in reaching our goal. That concept has stuck with me. It reminds me of my husband, who lost 30 pounds in 2015 and has kept it off. He used to use the word "bad" to describe his eating, and I called him on it often.

Yesterday, I made good choices. I resisted the sweets at meetings. I ate within my calorie range. I was able to make good choices because I had a healthy breakfast before the meeting and a healthy dinner before book group.

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Day 70 - No good or bad

In your journal, write a sentence or two about the choices you made today.

Immediately when I read this I was reminded of my visit to a new restaurant yesterday. In the past I would have labeled it “bad”.
My choice was not good for either my goal of a healthy lifestyle or the goal I’ve set for my weight, If I go there again I will take my time and make a better selection.



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Day 70 No good or bad

Thank you Gill for what you wrote in your Day 70 mail. Being on sort of an extended stay here, we are trying not to think of it as a vacation because that seems to lead us into too many indulgences.

I liked your take on choices and that we make them somewhat based on our will at the time. It isn't that they are good or bad but what we are willing to choose to move us nearer our goals. I haven't been very willing lately. I think I'll do better after considering this lesson.

Maribeth, I too like your "elimination diet"! It will have me thinking for awhile. Thanks for posting it.

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Day 70, 100 days No good or bad.

Linda is right we shouldn't label good as good or bad and my eating plan allows me to make good eating choices, less good foods have to be limited a little and I know if I choose to have too many less good foods I end up with a bad tummy but I don't learn!

Gill and friends are right that we shouldn't label parts of ourselves either as less nice! and I will try to be kinder to myself as well as my eating! emoticon

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1/13/19 10:44 A

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From today's email (on request from Maribeth!) this is what I wrote!

From moment to moment we have the opportunity to make choices. Understanding what drives my food craves has been so helpful - I no longer think I'm just 'hopeless' or 'lazy' or 'greedy' (add any word you have used for yourself now or in the past!). I'm a human being, trying really hard to be healthy and happy and not drown in the mire of junk food laid in my path!

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Love the “Elimination Diet” picture Maribeth! emoticon

Day #70 No Good or Bad (This is still so true for me.)
Getting my mind to automatically think "choice" is important. All foods are good but some "choices" are not good for my healthy lifestyle.
There are actually ways to make foods "healthier" by changing the way they are cooked and the ingredients added to them!

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Eliminate Foods u.nu/efqu
No good or bad...but better choices! Linda - u.nu/kbcd
Essential Nutrients in plant strong whole foods (no grains/legumes/nightshades). Limiting animal products to Omega 3 fish 2- 3x /week or nutrient packed liver 3-4x /month. Healthy fats in avocado, coconut & olive oils. When I want to reduce - *Commit* to plan (consistency counts). If I have several days leeway. ***Recommit*** It’s getting easier by working on behaviors with this team emoticon emoticon emoticon

No good or bad... yet slowly but surely I make healthier choices everyday. My taste buds prefer savory & spices over salty, sugary & starchy foods. Enjoy home cooking and knowing what is in my food. Learning to prepare meals with a few healthy ingredients. Restaurants on rare occasions (2-3x/year). Developing relationships with family and friends that take the focus off food: walks, movies & relaxing conversations.

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After many trials of eating early, I find it triggers late night munchies. Settled on first meal later in the day, time varies with activity. Beware - change of seasons - strong cravings for Fall foods - sugary and starchy. Keep going! Get back on track faster by recalling minor mishap summer '17 (took 6 months to lose 10lbs re-gain). Another regain Fall '18, I'm documenting how to reduce again! emoticon Eat Clean * Train Mean
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100 Days Challenge, Day 70 Are you good or bad?

Today’s assignment:

1. Write a sentence or two about the choices you made today.

Today I chose to have 41 calories over my daily allotment by including some turkey with my grilled cheese sandwich. The last time I had one for dinner, I ended up very hungry later in the evening. I believe having the additional protein will help me avoid that. I'm certainly not going to label myself as "bad" by eating something to help me in the long run.

2. Whenever you hear people use words such as cheating, good, and bad when discussing diet efforts, mentally rewrite their comments in a way that refers to choices in life. Record their words along with your new version.

I must admit that hearing people describe how "awful" they were over the weekend or what "bad" foods they ate, I get frustrated. I decided a long time ago that the word "choose" is a valuable tool. I haven't judged myself about food for some time. I think the last time was when I had what seemed to be an uncontrolled binge. The bottom line was, I chose to overeat the type and quantity of food I had. I made the choice.

3. Teach this concept to a friend or diet buddy. Describe how this went.

I haven't had the opportunity to share this concept yet, but will when I do. I know how valuable learning to "choose" not to label myself as "bad" is.

Joy is a Choice. Choose joy moment by moment.

When all else fails, persistence prevails.

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There is no good or bad foods ... there are foods that will get me closer to my goals. It's alllll about choices.

Just like choosing to exercise ... or not.

I may feel "bad" but I am not a bad person.
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I agree that this lesson is outstanding. It seems so silly now to think back on the amount of time and energy I spent feeling guilty about eating.



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Not good or bad.

This is a wonderful lesson. I used to say good and bad foods before I started reading 100 Days. This chapter helped me remember that what I eat or drink is a choice made by me and me alone. People can't make me eat. People can not tell me which foods are good and which foods are bad. They do not know my food plan. I decide healthy or unhealthy

I know which foods keep my body healthier, and which foods harm my body. I still test my sugar often to see how my body reacts to new foods.

I have made a lot of good choices recently, even though my mind is screaming for ice cream and chocolate. For Mother's day I had sashimi. Love it, and it is so good for my body. So that is how good and bad fit into my vocabulary. Good (healthier) for my body, and bad (harmful) to my body. The food is a food. What it does to me is how I label it.


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Even a "good" food could be "bad" for us if we are allergic to eat, or if we eat too much of it. I like following Linda's concept of choices.

For some reason I forget that since having my gallbladder removed several years ago it's difficult for my body to digest anything made with whole garlic. I can handle and do enjoy garlic powder but I have to be very careful in restaurants.

Garlic is often viewed as "good" for it's health benefits, but in my case, not so much!



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I have become really good at looking at foods as a choice - not good or bad - just a choice. Some foods may not be a wise choice on a given day or when unplanned but the word "bad" doesn't come up any more.

I'm even pretty good at not using the word "bad" for myself when it comes to this healthy lifestyle path I'm on. BUT.....I still call myself BAD when I know I'm being lazy, or spending more than I should, or probably at other times. I need to stop that ...and I will. I need to work at it more. Even those things are just choices...perhaps unwise but not BAD.

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NOTE TO SELF:

Yesterday we spent the entire day enjoying our family and at dinner I had a PAUSE which lead to several poor CHOICES! Today I am back to following my plan.

Linda made a comment in her blog that really resonated with me - "by labeling it as "choices" I stop punishing myself for my eating problems." I know I can do a pretty good job of beating myself up when I make poor choices and so developing a positive self-talk approach will be helpful to me.

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Well done, Maria! We are now in a place where we can recognize that we 'need' some comfort-eating, but can keep it under 'loose control' -that's a great term.

Yesterday, I had what I call a 'nibbly' day - I was super-tired after not getting enough sleep - but I watched what I was doing, and ended up having a big fruit salad for my dinner to end the day on a high note.

Maria's protein drink was a similar thing - taking control of our needs.

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Maria -- so very sorry for your and your friend's loss. emoticon I can relate as far as when it happened to me (in a similar situation several years ago) I found myself turning to eating and drinking comfort items. It was a surprise to me, but I accepted the circumstances and moved on...just as you have described.

Changing personal language is what I'm taking from this. emoticon

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From the past: "I no longer consider eating as good or bad but more about me making good/poor choices driven by correct/faulty phrases or conversations in my head. For certain foods I have been telling myself, "it's SO good I can't stop" and then portion control goes out the window. A barrage of excuses would follow to back up this faulty thinking. "It's healthy, I have already cut back so much, I rarely get to eat this....

Linda says to, "change your language and take back your power...acknowledge that you are personally responsible for decisions about food." This is a huge Ah Ha moment for me because so much of what I am hearing and reading lately is telling me I need to change my personal language."

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1/14/18 Very down. Went to the funeral of a close friend. She lost her daughter. We had celebrated so many years ago when our children were born within months of each other.

When I got home yesterday I found myself turning to chocolate and sugar. These lessons helped me to stay aware, savor. I had more than I should have but kept it under loose control. Not sure about the good or bad of it all just sharing my experience. I had protein (milk) with it and with positive self talk, I feel I will be back on track today.

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As I am completing week #1 of the No "S" diet, good or bad take on a different meaning for me.

Are they S or no S? It depends on the day. Today is an S day, as was yesterday. Yesterday's S (sugar) consumption consisted of around a tablespoon of syrup on my french toast at breakfast, and one wrapped hard candy later in the day from a dish at the antique store we were browsing around in.

Food when used as fuel and not filler should not be labeled good or bad. It leads again to the guilt and deprivation mindset that I am diligently working to remove from my head.

We are strong! We can do this!

On to the next 10 days!

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Congratulations Cheri (CGH-ARTYPANTS) you are doing such a great job. emoticon

Day #70 No Good or Bad
Getting my mind to automatically think "choice" is important. All foods are good but some "choices" are not good for my healthy lifestyle.
There are actually ways to make foods "healthier" by changing the way they are cooked and the ingredients added to them!

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I have been guilty of labeling myself as "bad" and "good" in relation to eating. I will work on changing my self talk. I am overweight, not because I am a bad person. I have made some poor decisions. I have lost weight before. I hate that I quit paying attention and gained weight back. That does not make me a bad person. Now I am enjoying the benefits of making wise choices. I am 17 pounds lighter than I was 70 days ago. I have been making good choices most of the time. Good choices help us towards a healthy lifestyle.

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Day 70, 100 days No good or bad.

As I said last time there is no good or bad food on my eating plan! Its all about naking good choices and trying my best not to say I have had a goid or bad day! Trying but thanks for the reminder! emoticon

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Day 70 No good or bad

I think I have absorbed this message. At least there is one tactic out of the 100 that I actually do well! emoticon

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Once again Linda starts off describing me in the very first sentence of Day 70 -

I STARTED THE DAY BEING SO GOOD! I can't count the number of times I have said these very words. I never thought about the words "good" and "bad" being associated only with morals. In those terms, labeling food in that way makes no sense at all. I have also not given enough thought in the past to how negative language can effect our thinking.

The fact that by changing your language you can take back your power over food really
Sparked me this morning. So the buck stops here. From now on I plan on rephrasing my language.

I will be making good CHOICEs today!

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Choices - and they are mine to make. I am making better choices daily.

Everyone seems to be doing well and everyone is positive. What a blessing and what an inspiration!

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Leslie, you have been doing such a great job! I am impressed that you got back into KOPS and I hope you have created some TOPS programs out of your 100 Days posts! I agree with you that this book is awesome and I know it has saved my healthy journey many times! Linda has so much common sense and she takes that approach; she is also an emotional eater and she knows....she just knows.

Day 70/100 - No good or bad

It was relatively easy to learn not to beat my self with negative self talk over my choices; I think I had already learned that before I found this book. It was much harder to learn not to label food or activities as good or bad.

Brownies and all other sweets were definitely "bad" in my mind; as were activities like watching TV, going to movies, playing games, needlework, etc. Anything that kept me sedentary was "bad" on my healthy journey. Never mind that all of those things brought me great enjoyment.

Thank you, Linda Spangle, for teaching me to make healthy choices MOST of the time and thank you for teaching me that the choice is MINE. All things in moderation! I can eat the things I enjoy - no "BAD" attached! I can pursue the activities I enjoy - no "BAD" attached. I have finally come to a place in life where I am more passionate about health than dessert or watching TV; It makes the choices easier.

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Day 70: No good or bad
I started the day being so good, but then someone brought a birthday cake to the office and I was really bad. Have you ever described your eating behavior this way? Maybe you've even told someone about your vacation or a holiday weekend by confessing, "I was so bad the whole time."
Since eating is not a moral issue, you can't apply behavioral codes to what you do with food. Eating cookies or potato chips doesn't make you a bad person. The truth is that with eating, it's impossible to be good or bad. So from now on, stop using those words to describe yourself based on your food intake.
Who said it was bad?
One of the challenges with dieting is the way we categorize food in the first place. For example, whoever decided that a carrot was good and a brownie was bad? In most cases, you simply measure your dieting efforts against a list of foods that are allowed or not allowed, then chastise yourself for eating from the wrong side.
To break the habit of calling yourself good or bad, follow the same logic as you did with cheating. When you discuss your weight-loss plan, refer to your eating choices.
With this new approach, you say, "I made a good choice this morning by eating a healthy breakfast. This afternoon, I made a poorer choice when I ate three brownies." By talking about each of your actions as a choice, you can eliminate the punishing self-messages that say you were bad.
Change your vocabulary
Getting rid of old dieting terms such as cheat, good, and bad will take practice. At first, you may feel awkward saying "I made some poor choices today."
But by changing your language, you take back your power around food. You also acknowledge that you are personally responsible for your decisions about what you eat.
In your journal, write a sentence or two about the choices you made today.
Notice how often you hear other people use words such as cheating, good, and bad when discussing diet efforts. Each time you hear someone use these terms, mentally rewrite the sentences in a way that refers to choices in life.
Teach this concept to a friend or diet buddy. Catch the times when either of you slips up by saying cheat, good, or bad to describe your eating patterns or food intake. Have a contest and designate the person who says these phrases the fewest times as the winner.
Interesting yesterday someone asked me if I had a cheat day and that lesson was yesterday. so told them I can eat all foods it just the portions I have to watch.
No food is not good or bad just more healthy than another. more nutritious than another. we make choices which way we want to go. today I am choosing to be more heathy
If we think of foods as "bad" then we may be tempted to overly crave them and give in to a binge. If we think of them as portion controlled and have learned to stop at just two bites of something while savoring the flavor, we haven't "cheated" we have "enjoyed".
There was a point where I decided "healthy choice" is what matters long term. There are actually ways to make foods "healthier" by changing the way they are cooked and the ingredients added to them!
I love the positive thinking. Lifestyle changes does not have to focus on what I shouldn’t have. Positive thinking lets me concentrate on making healthier choices. If I slip and make a poor choice, that does not make me a bad person.
I have changed SO much from working through this book a couple times, and adopting my new Tops Lifestyle change- I am so grateful to have found this material, SO grateful! My weight is normal, and I'm maintaining it without deprivation or stress.
If our choices are healthy most of the time we can still enjoy those treats as long as we choose to use portion control. We can do this.

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Getting my mind to automatically think "choice" is important. All foods are good but some "choices" are not good for my healthy lifestyle.
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Foods are not good or bad... but they can taste good or bad.

I catch myself using these words all of the time. After reading this the first time I always correct myself but I still say it. So in my mind I still think it.

There are foods that hurt my body more than others.
There are processed foods and natural (whole) foods.
A food is "bad" (in my opinion) when it is spoiled (moldy). Unless it is blue cheese emoticon

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Day 70 No Good or Bad Foods

I no longer label my food good or bad or cheating Now I choice to have a treat. I also know I need to watch my portions. As long as I journal it I will have it. Yesterday I choose to not eat the dessert at the dinner show. but I choose to finish my blizzard off which I ate in three different meals in two days span. Today I am choosing to eat my left overs fish and journal and watch portions. tomorrow is weigh in day.

No food is not good or bad just more healthy than another. more nutritious than another. we make choices which way we want to go. today I am choosing to be more heathy.

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Day 70 No Good or Bad Foods

I like this concept. It partners well with my plan where I CAN have a portion of whatever I want as long as I have the points available.

If we think of foods as "bad" then we may be tempted to overly crave them and give in to a binge. If we think of them as portion controlled and have learned to stop at just two bites of something while savoring the flavor, we haven't "cheated" we have "enjoyed".

Side note: AMAZED at how quickly this 100 days is going and how often my replies mirror the original time through, and also the times when they are completely different. Different insights for a different time in my life. Linda really has a message for all of us!

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Day #70 No Good or Bad
I've always loved the line from the book "who decided a carrot was good and a brownie was bad?"

Getting my mind to automatically think "choice" is important to me. All foods are good but some "choices" are not good for my healthy lifestyle.

There was a point where I decided "healthy choice" is what matters long term. There are actually ways to make foods "healthier" by changing the way they are cooked and the ingredients added to them!

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Gill for sharing about your chocolates. I/we can all relate.

Chele, I like the shift in focusing on positive words and thinking. One cup at a time.

Skinrunner: Love your quote.

I think sneak eating comes from years of labeling certain foods as good or bad. It takes time to change that and that is why we are here walking through this book. It may not take hold today but maybe the next time we are on this same day at a future time.

That brings hope to the fact that it doesn't always have to be that way.


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Skirunner1 emoticon emoticon "Sing a new song about ourselves!" emoticon
Gill emoticon I can picture you Clambering onto the counter. It's good to write those experiences down. This is my best accomplishment going though lessons is just...
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Cheers Chele emoticon One healthy choice... One cup of coffee at a time. No hurry we are in this together for the loooong journey. emoticon

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Gill, I still sneak eat too. I find it is soooo less enjoyable. I wish there was a switch I could turn on that gives me a shock any time I sneak eat LOL!

Day 70: No good or bad

I enjoyed reading this chapter. My husband and I used to say we are good or bad based on what we ate during the day before I first read this book. We changed need to choose, and afer I read this the first time we removed the "good and bad" thinking and words.

We catch ourselves if we say cheat, good, or bad, need and choose.

In the past I would tell people that I choose not to eat “that” because I was being good. I no longer say that. i just say "no thank you" as many times as necessary.

I love the positive thinking. Dieting does not have to focus on what I shouldn’t have. Positive thinking lets me concentrate on making healthier choices. If I slip and make a poor choice, that does not make me a bad person.

I made a good choice this morning when I drank my coffee without added sugar. I have been making healthier choices with what I eat and how much I eat. If my choice is not as healthy as it could be, or the portion is a bit more than what my body needs, that does not make me a bad person.


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I have changed SO much from working through this book a few times, and adopting the No S eating system - I am so grateful to have found this material, SO grateful! My weight is normal, and I'm maintaining it without deprivation or stress.

So, on a Saturday, I am 'allowed' to eat chocolate if I want to - so there's no problem about this. However, I wanted to share this story about how I chose to get chocolate yesterday at work!

I was on a long shift at work from 11.30am to 10pm, so I'd taken with me my lunch and dinner, plus two extra items as Saturday treats. One was a raw bar (just fruit and nuts with some cocoa), the other was a snack-size bag of raisins and hazelnuts with just a few chocolate buttons mixed in. Plus I had a banana.

At work there are two houses, both with Xmas trees where parcels are starting to accumulate. All the 'staff' gifts are either 1.5kg tins of chocolates, or large packets of assorted biscuits (aka cookies). Around 4pm, when I starting to get hacked off (!) I spied two tubs of chocolates on the top of the kitchen units. To get to these, I have to actually clamber up onto the counter! Clamber I did - more than once - and grabbed a handful of those chocolates (Roses).

They were pretty rubbish really - not great chocolates even. But I had quite a few!

So - in my journal my story sounds ridiculous! laughable! like a comedy show - I wait until I'm alone in the kitchen, then clamber up onto the counter, and take a handful of sweeties - then hide them in my pocket and eat them when no-one is looking!!!! I don't know why I was being secretive - they were for the 'staff' and I am 'staff'....... embarrassed maybe?

OK - I chose to clamber up and get chocolates to eat. I chose to do this when no-one could see me. I will think about those choices. Day 72 is Sneak Eating!

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I am slowly but surely making healthier choices everyday. Foods that I thought tasted great don't anymore. I'm glad that my taste buds prefer the food I make at home.

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"...(B)y changing your language, you take back your power around food." This chapter of lessons is soooooo important. We want to be strong and mature. Then we condemn our very worth by what we say about ourselves. Linda wants us to sing a new song about ourselves! emoticon



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Since last Wednesday I was making poor choices with my Friday night out as an excuse but sadly it took till Tuesday to get back to making good choices. emoticon
All food is allowed on my eating plan so there are no good or bad choices, I think awareness and mindfulness is quite important too!

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there are many foods I do not eat. I do not think of them as "bad" but as unhealthy for me. I do not like to bake and I am too lazy to research "healthy" muffins, cupcakes or other baked items. I do not eat most candy, cakes, or other items with a lot of sugar because I am controlling my diabetes through diet and exercise. So I do not take aspirin or Alieve because I am allergic to them. They are not bad drugs just very bad for me. By the same token I stay away from certain foods because they have health consequences for me.

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Yes, I like these so much I've not tried any other flavor. I keep them frozen and pop one into the microwave for 30- 60seconds, then carefully turn the muffin out into a small bowl. I then use a spoon to slowly enjoy each morsel. They're small but very satisfying. The middle gets a nice creamy texture this way. I've never eaten one any other way, e.g., like you'd eat a regular muffin! As a matter of fact, I'm right now waiting to get hungry enough to have one for my evening snack.

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Chele - now pumpkin brownies are a new one for me! You can add shredded carrots to many recipes to add a sweetening taste but not overly so and, of course, fiber. My landlady asked me over to help her make avocado brownies one day - I was skeptical - but they were decadently delicious/rich.

Skirunner1 - I am not familiar with 'Garden Lite' brand ... I rarely look at the 'amount per serving' labels anymore without FIRST checking the ingredient list. If there are a lot of added sugars, oils or chemicals the other label info is meaningless for me - I won't eat it. Went online and pulled up these muffins ... they remarkably have more real food(s) in them than most packaged products!

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Ooh ooh Garden Lite Carrot Berry Veggie Muffins!! One of my occasional yummy choices!

I digress!

"...eating is not a moral issue..." Yes. WOW! I love it that our choices ( rather than us) can be good or bad, but even then it's more of a practical issue than a moral one. Talk about getting led gently by the nose to stop beating ourselves up!

And I did once have a deep-fried Snickers bar. It was like one of the black rated slopes I once skied - a great one-time experience, but never again!

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I have heard of brownies made with canned pumpkin but not carrot brownies! LOL! emoticon



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All good posts ...

I agree with Linda ... our food choices should not carry a label of being 'good or bad' moralistically.

I do see the difference between a carrot and a brownie however ... nutritionally. So, I no longer follow the 'diet police' but I do try to learn about nutrition from the research and scientific studies available to us as never before thanks to the internet and 'nutrition conscious and trained' physicians. With that information in hand I pro-actively manage my food choices hopefully making wiser food choices for my health as well as weight loss concerns.

I want my choices to not only enhance my weight loss capabilities but my ability to reverse - and sometimes even cure - existing health issues and be further on the path to preventing future 'lifestyle' diseases that are so epidemic now in our nation due to 'how and what we eat'.

So - I'll take the carrot - ha! or, at the very least 'carrot brownies'? emoticon

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I loved reading all of the posts today. So many great choices!

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I enjoyed reading this chapter so much I read it out loud to my husband. He thought it was great too. We both often say we are good or bad based on what we ate during the day. We already changed need to choose so we will just add this tidbit to our healthier lifestyle. We will catch ourselves if we say cheat, good, or bad.

In the past I would tell people that I choose not to eat “that” because I was being good. I will remove that phrase from my life.... poof, gone!

I love the positive thinking from the past few chapters. Dieting does not have to focus on what I shouldn’t have or do. It does not have to make me feel bad or upset if I choose to eat a cookie.

Positive thinking helps me concentrate on making healthier choices. If I slip and make a poor choice, that does not make me a bad person.

I made a good choice this morning when I used the rowing machine. I choose to eat healthy foods today. I choose not to snack.

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Maribeth.... um deep fried candy bars??? Never heard of that. What kind of candy bar? I think I have heart issues just picturing it.

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Phyllis you asked who made that decision. I say the 'diet police'. We all know who they are and like the rest of you I have learned to turn a deaf ear to them. I do not make comments about the food choices other people make except to either say something looks good or does that taste as good as it looks. I figure they probably will get it from someone else so they don't need me butting into their 'business'.

I am glad to see this day's lesson. It is a healthier (mentally especially) way of looking at food. For those of us who always didn't see it this way this can be liberating.

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Day #70 No Good or Bad
Who decided a carrot was good and a brownie was bad? Who decided what is allowed and what is not allowed?
Getting my mind to automatically think "choice" is important to me.
There was a point where I decided "healthy choice" is what matters long term.


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Day 70, 100 days No good or bad.

I making better choices each day but learning to change the language I use will be slow as I ve been using it for years. I never thought of it being so powerful. I did make some choices that were not satisfactory in my eyes these past two weeks so the scale is being stubborn today. I also made some awesome choices too. so I know sometimes it take a bit for the scale to move. I know I need to make a choice for moving my body more esp. on days I don't work if I want the scale to move.

I notice how people say cheat and bad and good. Never did before.

My better choices are becoming more and my poorer choices are becoming fewer. I am sure there will always be choices that I feel are poorer but I can overcome them by make better choices and getting back on my plan to a healthier lifestyle change. One day it wont be a change but just a way of life.

Day 70 today onward to the next ten days. This book is changing my way of thinking, my way of doing. now if it only can help me get my body moving and get me organize I will be a happy camper.

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I have these lessons quite firmly embedded in my brain these days. What I do notice is how many conversations I now don't join in! If I say 'no thank you' to an offer of a cookie or cake - I hear "Oh, you ARE good!". When I hear people talking about their eating in terms of 'good' or 'bad' I don't interfere any more. I just let them get on with it. I've been there - and I'm so glad I've moved on!

As in yesterday's lesson, everything I eat is my choice. What I choose doesn't make me 'good' or 'bad'.

I do feel proud of myself, or good about myself when I've stuck to my meal plans for the day - I think that's slightly different. I hear myself say 'Ah, I did well today'

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Day 70 No good or bad.
I am slowly but surely making better choices everyday. I can pass by fair food (deep fried candy bars or corn dog On-A-Stick) I already know what ti tastes like. For a distraction from food I'm carrying water. I keep my bottle filled with cold water at the many stations all over the fair grounds. I also wear a backpack with vegetables.

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This one is amazing! I find myself choking on using these words now .. finding how many times I do use them. "I had a good day today - eating wise" is - WAS - one of my favorite ways to judge myself, and too many times I feel that I'm punishing myself because I don't make the healthiest choices. I'm am working very hard on saying (even to myself in my head) "I am making a choice to have this food right now." Maybe all my choices are not the healthiest, but they are MY choices. .. I am not letting food control my life.

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I agree totally that I am neither a good or a bad person based on my food choices. Not ready to say foods can't be good or bad, though. Spinach is unadulterated good - delicious, nutritious, inexpensive, low on the food chain... brownies are good in moderation. And cheetos just aren't food - I'm willing to call them bad. They aren't good fuel for my body, they challenge my liver and kidneys with chemicals my body was never designed to consume, I don't find them satisfying, eating crap like that leaves me feeling bleh afterwards. No good reason to eat them except sometimes I don't have any other food around and that's the least objectionable thing in the vending machine. Bad.

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Jodie, that is EXACTLY what Linda is trying to teach us:

"This morning I was telling my co-worker what I ordered and never used the word 'bad' when describing my foods. I told her what my choices were and that I was happy with them"

Well done! I'm much better at this now - although I think there is still, for me, a kind of 'limit' over which I still might think 'that was bad!' or 'that wasn't such a good choice'!

Great comments on here - thanks for posting.

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Deb, I've wondered, "Should I be driving under the influence of chocolate chip cookie batter?"

Mtn_Kitten,you ask a good (not bad emoticon ) question.

I have to say that I feel I greatly decriminalized food before I had my turnaround. But I believe the seductive power of hyperpalatable food kept me overeating them, not any sense that they were forbidden. Moral issues can complicate reducing eating, but it's not the only thing driving us. That food has come to play a much smaller role in my life, but I still have to use some judgement about it. I used to dream of being a person who never gave a thought about food, just eating what I was drawn to and stopping naturally at an amount that was just enough, but I've finally accepted that those people are the very small exception. And guess what: they can bring on health issues with their habits, too. I just want to be reasonably thoughtful- whatever that means.

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We are not bad people trying to become good!!!!

I have not used "good" or "bad" foods in eons. Helped tremendously with my frame of mind.

I do ask myself if this chose will get me closer to my goal???

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I like these last 2 lessons. I like she said eating is not a legal or moral issue. I would hate to be pulled over for eating lasagna. emoticon

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Day 70 ... No good or bad

I am so proud of myself for putting these lessons into practice again this morning. Last night I was taken out to dinner as a 'thank you' for helping some friends. This morning I was telling my co-worker what I ordered and never used the word 'bad' when describing my foods. I told her what my choices were and that I was happy with them, including the margarita!

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This is pretty much the same to me as saying I cheated. I don't do it often. I resist the woman-bonding topics of shame and guilt around eating and my body (though I do complain about my crepey skin.)

I also don't have "not allowed" foods, though there are many foods I rarely eat. They fell away over time as I experimented. I don't agree with calling a food "not allowed" unless I really never eat it. It will bring about a sense of dishonesty if I tell myself something is not allowed and then I eat it. Obviously it IS allowed if I eat it. There is only one way to show that I really believe something as obvious as eating brings me harm: I eat it rarely or never. Otherwise, I must not really believe it. For a long time, I really didn't believe certain foods brought me harm enough to make up for the pleasure. But I have changed my mind about some of them. Once I did, it was actually relatively easy not to have them. But I never do it for weight loss alone.

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Day # 70 No Good or Bad
Another lesson that is so simple that, although sometimes will be a challenge to stick to, is a reasonable solution to being healthy.
Make two lists: Fuel or Filler
Fuel--Allowed foods that will make me have the healthy life I want.
Filler--Not Allowed foods that will keep me from ever having the healthy life I want.

Nothing is really "good" or "bad" but some things will always be on the healthy list and some things will always be on the unhealthy list.
How I live each day picking from those lists is up to me!

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Looks like we're all doing pretty well!

Maria, I can really identify with your thoughts on changing your personal language. I am working on the same thing! emoticon

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I no longer consider eating as good or bad but more about me making good/poor choices driven by correct/faulty phrases or conversations in my head. For certain foods I have been telling myself, "it's SO good I can't stop" and then portion control goes out the window. A barrage of excuses would follow to back up this faulty thinking. "It's healthy, I have already cut back so much, I rarely get to eat this...."

Linda says to, "change your language and take back your power...acknowledge that you are personally responsible for decisions about food." This is a huge Ah Ha moment for me because so much of what I am hearing and reading lately is telling me I need to change my personal language.

Last night I DID stop with a favorite food that I have over eaten without fail in the past. emoticon It helped that I had strategies in place. I pre-tracked it. I weighed the portion. I did not allow myself to even think about going back for more. I had a snack planned for later.

I realize I have been deluding myself big time by saying I can't stop because I can. There is still some left and I can make the right choice again tonight by continuing to work on changing the conversation in my head.

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Again not a task that I can actually do, today I am at work and in my job situation I am alone in my office all day, I do not interact with coworkers enough to hear them complain about food choices. Today being Friday, I will not even see my daughter and she is not watching what she eats, so nothing there either.

So, I only have my own self talk to listen to. Dinner and after dinner will be my big challenge to make healthy choices and to not eat those foods I know are not in my plan.

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Day 70 - No good or bad

I’m learning not to put myself down, not just where diet is concerned but in all aspects of my life. I try to keep the following in mind... “Don't say anything about yourself that you wouldn't say about your best friend”.
But if I make a series of bad choices in a day I don’t consider myself to be bad but I do consider it bad or detrimental to my eating plan and my weight-loss efforts. I try not to get too hung-up on the word stuff. I don’t use the word to describe me, but I do and will use it to describe my food choices. Occasionally I make bad choices, I accept that, and I have to take responsibility for it, and hopefully learn from it. Each day there are choices to be made, they may be bad, good, better or best. Thankfully most days my choices are in the better or best category.

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This is one of the things I've been working on, not talking to myself negatively. I think the key is not looking at this as a "diet". It's a lifestyle. I need to have something I can live with, not something that makes me feel like I'm in prison. My diet on a given day is not good or bad, per se; it's made of choices.


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Yay! Day 70 makes me feel as if I am really making progress. Oh my goodness; I used to think and sometimes speak of myself in negative terms every day! I'm so happy that I don't call myself bad any more! I used to be that girl that would give in to every temptation and then verbally beat myself up....bad, bad, BAD! But now.....I say "that wasn't my best choice; I'll do better next time" and simply go on with my day. I eat it; I write it, and I move on!

Now is more going on subconsciously? Maybe, but I don't want to know...right now I know that I just need to move on after an unwise choice. If something is festering away deep down I will just have to deal with it later. AND I will, but right now I'm moving forward!

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9Th October 2015

Day 70 – No good or bad

Note: If you find your way to the beginning of this thread, which was started in 2011, you'll find inspiration from posts made about this activity.

Here are today's suggested activities:

1. In your journal, write a sentence or two about the choices you made today.

2. Notice how often you hear other people use words such as 'cheating', 'good', and 'bad' when discussing diet efforts. Each time you hear someone use these terms, mentally rewrite the sentences in a way that refers to choices in life.

3. Teach this concept to a friend or diet buddy. Catch the times when either of you slips up by saying 'cheat', 'good' or 'bad' to describe your eating patterns or food intake. Have a contest and designate the person who says these phrases the fewest times as the winner.

Here's a link to the Day 70 blog, posted on Linda's Spark page
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Barbara has chosen the sentence that best describes my direction too.

I AM personally responsible for my choices and decisions. The power is in MY hands and I choose a sensible path forwards.

Brilliant set of lessons.

Bring on Day 71.

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"...by changing your language, you take back your power around food. You also acknowledge that you are personally responsible for your decisions."

Best sentence in this lesson!

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I also liked this lesson of 10, they have been very helpful. I do have choices today and 99% of the time I choose to be healthy.

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It's so helpful to read through these threads - thank you to those of you who do!

I was so surprised to read that Susan found this group of 10 days challenging - that's how I felt about those '2 bites' days back around Day 15-25! Gosh - they were my hardest so far! This set (61-70) have felt quite 'easy' to me. We're all different, but there's something in this book for each of us - whatever stage we're at.

I love this lesson today - I feel SO relieved to have been given permission to stop using the words 'good' 'bad' and 'cheat'! Phew! Yes, they all make me feel SO terrible!

I don't often hear myself saying 'I've been bad today' - but I do know that I cringe when someone says 'oh, are you being good?' or 'oh, you're so good!' (around food choices) - so I'll be interested to do the suggested activity of watching out for when I hear people using these words today! (I'm working3.30-10pm which is why I'm posting this in the morning - before work.

I am choosing (!) not to share this with my friend - my experience so far has been disappointing - and I haven't got a 'diet buddy'. But I shall be mindful of it - and offer the lesson up if the opportunity presents itself.

I will also be careful not to make comments about what other people are eating! Just ignore the food choices of others - concentrate on myself!

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Day 70 - No good or bad

I agree, there is no good or bad, only choices.
I have chosen to exercise and make healthy choices in food.

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There is no good or bad ... only choices.

I have chosen to eat healthy.
I have chosen to move my body.
I have chosen to talk positive to myself.
I have chosen to live the best life possible.
I have chosen to be happy.
I have chosen these things for myself ... because I have chosen I deserve them.

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Day 70 - No good or bad

Can I just say I'm glad to be done with this particular set of ten? I feel like I've awakened triggers and cravings that had been hidden for months!

OK, now that is off my chest LOL!

I envision myself staying on this path for the rest of my life. Whom would I be cheating, if not my own good health? It's just not worth the cost to do so.

There will be days, like yesterday, where I eat more carbs than I normally do, or more filler foods, but I will not go over my daily points plus available flex. I've worked to hard to get off cholesterol meds (and hopefully blood pressure meds in another six months) to ever want to go back there again.

The plan I am on does not restrict any type of foods, other than portion control to the points available and I think that helps to not have a good/bad food scenario.

I also know my body responds well when I have an even balance of proteins to carbs in my day and when I get in my 8+ glasses of water and 5+ freggies. These fuel me for the long haul.

So without looking at food as being good or bad, I think I still need to focus on 90-95% fuel and leave most of the filler items for rare occasions.

On to day 71!

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rules or guidelines, both can be the same or just similar/shades of grey... I think it depends on the usage and connotation. Rules implies absolute unless expressly stated exceptions occur. Guidelines in my experience lean towards these are the general guidelines/goals to follow but use your judgement as you put this project together. So maybe a natural other word would be goal; something we strive toward.

again, this should be tailored to your own needs/preferences. Some people thrive with rules, structure, competition... Others the opposite, so upshot is hopefully this topic helps you define what will work well for you :)

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Certainly an interesting discussion.

Guidelines - rules - is there a difference?

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I tend to be a rules person, and using the wide road analogy works for me...
I do better with structure

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emoticon emoticon emoticon Warm, that is the perennial question, eh?

For me, like Margo, I have this rebellious thing. Give me a rule, and my response is make me... when it comes to food. Now this is somewhat the same elsewhere in life. I don't have patience for stupid rules or busy work that has no benefit or real necessity behind it... and in this day and age, we can be "rule" to death...

So how do you distinguish between what is helpful and what is harmful. Do you always place a good/bad value on things. Or can they just be?

For example, the sun is shining... (smiles) do you automatically think this is good? or do you go directly to smiles?

The stove is red hot, so don't put my hand on it. I know this why? because I was burned earlier in life and have accepted that I don't touch, eat or drink things that are too hot, no matter how much I want to slurp that hot cocoa on a cold winters day after coming in from playing in the snow... Is the rule to wait until it's cool necessary? yes, there's a real benefit there... and I accept that... but if I drink too soon, i tend to scald my tongue... I think oh my gosh, next time I will try to remember to cool the drink first. But here's the question. Do I beat myself up as bad because I didn't wait? Or do I move from the drank too hot to wait next time, lesson learned, release it... and do better next time?

So, really, what I am trying to say, I think is that the rules, guidelines we use... (think wide and narrow roads) are meant primarily to help us in beneficial ways. We are adults. We are free to choose our own food rules... We should want to eat in ways that nourish us emotionally & physically instead of hurt us. If we skip a rule or change or widen a rule, we are not good or bad... we might have blown the rule, but learn the lesson, adjust the rule/guideline if necessary and practice again the next time...

Now, I don't mean to say don't have any guidelines or rules... some people thrive better with more structure... other people thrive better with less structure... There is no right or wrong here... and as we go through different stages in our learning and understanding, our "rules" or guidelines can evolve or be adjusted to suit us and our new understanding, circumstances and abilities...

think of the building blocks of learning math or reading skills or grammar... Or our understanding in our faith... as we learn and grow and our understanding increases and our skills mastered, we will face the next level.

ok, /end of random thoughts... LOL

I hope this helps in some small way as you sort through your ideas/guidelines and work to find what is appropriate for you :)

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But when I set up rules for myself, it feels like good or bad when I keep or "break" them.

How do I guide myself if I don't have rules? And how can I be good if I don't follow them?

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sometimes I think we just have to talk to ourselves like a good friend and someone who really cares about us, sometimes tough love and sometimes gentle love.....

it is okay to get tough on ourselves when it helps, only you know when enough is enough....as I got further in this journey I got better at being tough on me.....like with the fudge last Monday, I bought way to much, but at the top of Pikes Peak I lost my mind....lol but come tuesday morning and the whole night the fudge was calling me, I got very tough on myself, and threw it in the trash and scolded myself for putting temptation in my way....but it's over and I did talk with Gary about it....it's not is fault by any means but he can with my permission help me next time.....to night at the fair he will help too....this works for me as I have given him permission to help me stop when it looks like I might be heading out of control....
this can be an issue for some but it works for me.....

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totally understand Margo!

there was a point where I just had to go no rules... and worked hard to get my inner 2 yr old child to even understand and accept that it is necessary to eat enough but not too much... even eating at maintenance level felt restrictive, and remains a balancing act. When I start feeling rebellious, I have to ease up and often find myself just going back to real basic, simple guidelines.

there are some things in this book I find empowering, like day 1, I used to be that way... and the wide/narrow road. I think I use those 2 skills the most. Some days I can do more.... but I refuse to smack myself around anymore for not meeting arbitrary rules. I particularly like the most recent days where we are adults and we can choose.

Well, I do choose. I choose to be healthy. I choose to nourish myself instead of hurt me. I choose to enjoy what I eat (no more foods I don't like...)

and sometimes, I choose not to put my hand on the red hot stove even though my silly 2 yr old child can't seem to resist the translucent shimmering glow...

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do what works for you....it sure makes life easier and happier

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I'm stubborn. When I set up dichotomies like good/bad, I immediately do the opposite emoticon There are lots of psychological aspects to eating and I try to walk that thin line. I don't limit mayonnaise, for example, even though I don't use it "all" either.

But, I don't just want to be free of the rules, I don't want to think of so many of the psychological aspects of eating anymore and have to keep the peace between good and bad, should and ought, even how many vegetables versus how many fruits (I believe one is "supposed" to eat 3 vegetables to the 2 fruit to get the 5 a day but I prefer fruit to vegetables and probably eat 3-4 fruits a day and only 2 vegetables :-) just the whole dichotomy thing seems to take up so much thought and psychic energy.

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I am trying to get away from defining things as good or bad. They just are. I do try to be more descriptive. i.e. I have two categories -- fat and slimmer. A fat cake would be one bought at the store. A slimmer cake would be a homemade cake using healthy substitutions. A fat pumpkin pie slice has about 230 calories. A homemade one can be made for about 70 calories per slice.

A fat cake also sounds less appetizing.

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Even if we lose the race, we are still a winner (just a slow winner).

As long as you keep moving, you are still lapping those on the couch.

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I really like this. I also don't like to say I made a good or bad choice because that's kind of like good or bad food to me, after years of lists of foods I could and could not eat or people telling me what I can't eat.

I find the freedom to choose very liberating. When I can choose, and make the choice, then I can eat the food and enjoy it, guilt free.

I find it helps to characterize it as... I ate enough which helps me. If I did not eat enough, or I ate too much then I hurt me... next time I plan to eat enough but not too much or too little... that kind of thing.

this change in thinking does take a lot of practice but it comes with time & practice and for me, it was tremendously helpful :)

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emoticon Wow! Wrapping up 70 days already! Woohoo!!!




emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon Day 70, No Good or Bad

"I started the day being so good, but then someone brought a birthday cake to the office and I was really bad."

Have you ever described your eating behavior this way? Maybe you've even told someone about your vacation or a holiday weekend by confessing "I was so bad the whole time."

Since eating is not a moral issue, you can't apply behavioral codes to what you do with food. Eating cookies or potato chips doesn't make you a bad person. The truth is that with eating, it's impossible to be good or bad. So from now on, stop using those words to describe yourself based on your food intake.


emoticon Who said it was bad?
One of the challenges with losing weight is the way we categorize food in the first place. For example, who decided taht a carrot was good and a brownie bad? In most cases you simply measure your dieting efforts against a list of foods that are allowed or not allowed, then chatise yourself for eating from the wrong side.

To break the habit of calling yourself good or bad, follow the same logic as you did with cheating. When you discuss your weight loss efforts and plan, refer to your "eating choices."

With this new approach, you might say, "I made a good choice this morning by eating a healthy breakfast. This afternoon, I made a poorer choice when I age 3 brownies." By talking about each of your actions as a choice, you can eliminate the punishing self-messages that say you were bad.



emoticon Change your vocabulary
Getting rid of the old "dieting" terms such as "cheat, good, and bad" will take practice. At first you may feel awkward saying "I made some poor choices today."

But changing your language, you take back your power around food. You also acknowledge that you are personally responsible for your decisions about what you eat.





emoticon Suggested activities for today
~ in your journal, write a sentence or two about the choices you made today.

~ Notice how often you hear other people use words such as cheaing, good, and bad when discussing their eating and weight loss efforts. Each time you hear someone use these terms, mentally rewrite the sentences in a way that refers to choices in life.

~ Teach this concept to a friend or diet buddy. Catch the times when either of you slips up by saying cheat, good or bad to describe your eating patterns or food intake. Have a contest and designate the person who says these phrases the fewest times as the winner.


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