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Chapter 7 - The Games We Play
It seems sometimes we are more alike than not when it comes to wanting to lose weight. I do believe I belonged to the same weight loss group as Dee in the story.
Weigh-in day was Wednesday and I used some of the same games in order to have a loss for the week.
When the weight stopped coming off I sometimes weighed at noon instead of in the evening to get a loss.
Eventually it doesn’t work so I would quit because it became a waste of money when the plateau came which it usually does.

I don’t play games with my scale anymore. The readout is only a number, and you can't trick it into being something else.
Power Key 2: Remember that I can't trick the scale.

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I've improved my relationship with my scale 100% since first doing this book in 2014!

This chapter always makes me chuckle, because I've so 'been there, done that'

I now use self-discipline to eliminate all the factors that can be game-changers: I weigh myself with no clothes on, first thing in the morning, once.

I would HATE to have to be weighed, clothed, in the middle of the afternoon because I know (I think I know anyway) that I would not like that number.

So, as I've said before here, I'm not completely free of all the anxiety around weighing - but I have a way to measuring my weight which is free from anxiety on a daily basis.

That's a win in my book!

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Paula.....I will now stand on the back of my scale! emoticon

One day at a time!


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I got a good laugh and a jolt of recognition out of those scale games described! Especially the ones about weigh in day. When I was going to WW I developed a routine where I always weighed in on a Saturday morning. My breakfast was a glass of buttermilk, and then I attended the early morning spin class at the Y, showered, then headed over to the meeting. I drank water during the cardio class, but always made sure to pee before stepping on the scale...without shoes, of course! I had already determined the outfit I would wear by testing it out on my scale at home.

I've never moved the home scale around -- just the opposite -- It MUST sit in the same spot and be adjusted up the same 5 pounds. I don't move it at all and I'm very careful when cleaning the top of it and sweeping around it. My main concern is that it is the same from day to day. DH found that out when he innocently suggested "fixing" it. He knows better than that now. emoticon I have noticed, however, that if I'm standing more toward the back of it my weight will be just a tad lighter. The more I move to center my weight on it, the heavier my weight.

Kidding aside - there is no fooling the scale. I weigh what I weigh, and manipulating a favorable reading really means nothing.

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Games you say?
Oh I would never dream of stepping on the scale with clothes on--not even a ring!
I have been reluctant to weigh because the scale and I have never actually been "close" ..
well not in years.

BUT I kept feeling like I was changing and could even SEE a change with my own eyes.
Plus my husband said he 'noticed change.
SO TODAY I finally got my courage and to my surprise I LOST 3 POUNDS since I last weighed!! ... emoticon

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Day #7 The Games We Play

I recognized myself in many of these games!

I used to weigh myself every morning when I first woke up - AFTER I peed and then BARE NAKED in order to get the lowest weight. Darn it's cold first thing in the morning! So now I weigh myself with my nightgown on with the knowledge that my is actually a bit less.

I used to wear the light clothing I could when I went for my weekly weigh-in at WW. I stopped going to WW because - well, it's a waste of money if you aren't going to do the work!

I still hate to keep my shoes on at the Doctor's office when I get weighed (or any place for that matter). When I can break this habit I will know that I have really made progress.

It used to make my DH and me very upset in the game of golf when we would find someone cheating on their score. Now our attitudes are different. We realize that those people are really only cheating themselves. The score on the scale is very similar because deep inside we know we are only cheating ourselves.

emoticon Cheers, Gloria, on the weight loss and resisting all of the goodies at the game!


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Yes, I am guilty of playing games.........exercising before eating then running back to jump on the scale again.
Oh......the things we do to get that number down. If I put everything in perspective , I know that the number is just a number which can fluctuate everyday. Yesterday we went to a college football game and didn’t eat at the game, so we bought a pizza and ate that late last night. I got on the scale this morning thinking oh no I don’t want to see this. I lost a pound! Maybe it was all the cheering! emoticon
But I know tomorrow that can all change, so I will keep making healthy choices.

One day at a time!


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Ch. 7 - No Games, this is my personal healthcare job. Keeping all variables consistent --- Time, place & scale then record to watch trends. Number on scale will not change healthy eating plans. I will overeat or skip workouts to comfort gains emoticon or celebrate progress emoticon Non-Food Rewards- NSV u.nu/34pu

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This chapter always makes me laugh because I have totally been there, done that! But not any more.

Getting some basic digital scales really helped me.

I weigh first thing, no clothes, bathroom floor. I accept the first number.

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I have done some of the scale games to see a lower number, like weighing multiple times (especially after exercise) and wearing lighter clothes when I belonged to Weight Watchers and had a weigh-in. I have not used the scale as an excuse to overeat after seeing the number go up.
I will remember the second key: Remember that I can't trick the scale.

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I generally don't play games with the scale. I just weigh myself first thing in the morning, and that is it.

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Lesson 7: The Games We Play
When the scale doesn't give you the results you'd hoped for, do you attempt to make it say what you want? Maybe you jump off quickly and pretend you didn't see the number. Perhaps you get on and off a bunch of times, hoping the readout will change. Or you start playing around with the scale to see if you can trick it into showing a number you want to see.
• No eating or drinking before weigh-in, no matter what time my meeting was.
• Wear lightweight summer clothes year-round. (No heavy outfits!)
• Make sure to put on my lightest underwear.
• Leave off extra jewelry, such as my watch.
• Wear thin socks or none at all.
• Eat very light meals and maybe even no dinner the day before.
• Leave my pedometer in my purse. (Who knows how heavy those are!)
• That morning, pee and pee (and hope to go No. 2) prior to my weigh-in.
Dieters are notorious for inventing secret games around the scale, hoping they can trick it into giving them the results they want. I've had clients who were so hooked into scale games that they flossed their teeth or waited to put in their contacts, hoping for a lower reading.
How many of these scale games have you tried?
• Move the scale to different areas on the floor.
• Weigh yourself several times a day.
• Hold your breath while on the scale.
• Make sure your hair is dry.
• Take out your earrings, remove all jewelry.
• Go to the bathroom a few times.
• Get on and off the scale many times.
or another not mentioned..
YES, I done a few of these
The worst game of all is when you decide to get even with your scale. In fact, some dieters actually punish themselves by doing an eating binge on days when the scale goes up. Yep done this one too.
Regardless of what you do, your scale will give you a number. Some days it's not a "warm fuzzy" number, but it's still just a number. You can't magically shift to a different weight by playing games with the scale. Very true
Power Key 2: Remember that I can't trick the scale.
1. In your notebook, list 2 or 3 things that you learned from this chapter.
-That I played a lot of the scale games At home and TOPS.
- You can’t magically shift to a different weight by playing games with the scale.
2. What are some ways you can relate to the clients or examples in this chapter
- I relate to both- at tops meeting wearing lightest clothes and at home seeing number and binging I already ruined the week might well enjoy it. little did I know I still could change that number by following my plan the rest of week.
. What will you do differently as a result of reading this chapter?
Continue to do follow my plan and realizing that the number on the scale is just that a number and look at the trends to see if I am trending down over time which I have been doing. also may not worry about the other game plays I done. besides it will be a more honest reading.
How many scale games have you done.

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I Recognise a few of those tricks. My 'saddest' was thinking I might get a lower reading if I leant more weight on my left leg. OK...Off the floor. Stop laughing.

My education continues...

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I have moved my scale to see if it changes but not the other things. So long as my clothes are fitting or getting loose I'm happy.

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Sometimes I play these games without really intending to. Our scale is really cheap and the needle points at a different number every time you pull it out. Sometimes it's on 0 and other times it's on 2. I just try to get an average of what I might weigh and if it stays fairly consistent for a few days, I write that number down for the week.

This has been a really good study to go through. It's easy for me to be so obsessive about the numbers on the scale that I consider healthy living as being a terribly stressful thing and then when life throws me a curve ball I just give up on everything and revert back to what's easiest.

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I have played every one of the games mentioned except holding my breath! LOL I guess I didn't think of that! And Pam, I think your enumeration of bodily functions is hilarious! Are you an accountant??

Another reason we can't trick the scale is that a scale is inanimate. We just trick ourselves. What the h### do we do THAT for?!??

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POWER KEY #2: Remember that I can't trick the scale.

I have always been some what of a Dee. Weigh the same time, naked, after going to the bathroom, before eating or drinking anything.... no jewelry or anything. If I have to way at the doctor's office... yes, lightest weight clothing, take off my shoes, no jewelry.. probably no underwear... yep... don't eat before hand, even if it's a late afternoon appointment.

I realize that it's all silly. I no longer beat myself up over it but for some silly reason.. I still do it.

Thanks for taking the journey with me.

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I hope the others don't mind but they said it so well I am going to quote them:

" Having played some of these games in the past I feel good that I have moved on from them. Good to have the reminders of past behavior and see it for what is was, a way to fool myself instead of buckling down and doing the work necessary to make lifestyle changes." [quote]

Sleeky (Cheryl)

" When I was going to Weight Watchers meetings my weigh in was on a Thursday night around 6 pm. I would stop eating after lunch at 11, and all fluids by 2 pm, making sure to use the restroom as close to meeting time as possible, wear the same clothes, no jewelry, remove shoes.

Then after the meeting I would go out to eat and use up all the remaining flex points (sometimes all 35 of them) at my one big blow out meal of the week! ." [quote]


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I have done both of these. It was the main reason why I ceased going to both WW and TOPs in person meetings. The mental torture that I felt prior to doing so was awful. I was not even present during the entire purpose of the in person meeting, which is to give you support, if I was still thinking about what the scales had said. As a result of wanting to 'win at the losing game' I began a lot of mind games which I actually believed for a while.

Ironically, when I did purchase a new scales (about 5 weeks ago) and I did actually toss the two older and inaccurate ones I had been using I got on the scales and the first weight was sort of a shock. Then, I decided to report that (since I too am involved in a lot of team challenges here on SP) and it was tough to explain to a new team leader why my initial weight was so much different. Then, when I did actually start losing (yes, I was doing some of the new challenge's 'lifestyle changes') that I had played games with myself for so long that I actually didn't believe the number. It took a couple of weeks to believe what the number said because I was expecting to bring out my usual mind games (-0.6 lbs. for a BM, 2 lbs. for a previous eaten meal, etc.) until I had arrived at the number that I 'thought' I weighed.

The scales is not the problem. The problem lies in being honest with what I have done the previous week. Had my workouts really been 'intentional'? Had I really worked as hard as I thought I had? Did I eyeball one meal or several to come up with the calories that I tracked? It really meant examining and exposing the possible self-deceit that I suspected I had been operating under for several years and why I couldn't 'understand' why I was supposedly doing all of this and yet not seeing the results I wanted.

The truth is losing weight gets harder not easier as you inch down to your end goal weight. Why? Your body gets more efficient (which was the original goal if you recall) and so you have to keep raising the bar on challenging my body to out perform itself. Most of us are not prepared for this. I had forgotten on how tough it can be.

Now, with a new scale and with the truth there in front of me (see the future chapters about what Ms. Spangle has to say about the accuracy anyway) and it means that now instead of using the scales as the sole source of validation of what I am or not doing I need to also review more closely what my food plan looked like the previous week and what else I have done to move that number to where it will reflect the work I am doing.

I have also read (in the past half year or so) that it is not about the numbers but about eating to be healthy instead of thin. Again, this is a mindset that is 180 from where I have been for decades. I will say that if I had a choice right at this moment I would choose thin over healthy. I said it because that is what I want to be. I had never questioned whether thin was healthy because I had assumed that it was. Now, I realize that it isn't always (My Mom when she had cancer) and that if I am going truly be liberated from the domination that I felt all of these years from the scale I am going to have to liberate my mind's thinking.

Work --lots of it---ahead!

Pam

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Oh yes the games I used to play, but now I'm different. I love day 1 of 100 Days of Weight Loss for teaching me that phrase!

When I was going to Weight Watchers meetings my weigh in was on a Thursday night around 6 pm. I would stop eating after lunch at 11, and all fluids by 2 pm, making sure to use the restroom as close to meeting time as possible, wear the same clothes, no jewelry, remove shoes.

Then after the meeting I would go out to eat and use up all the remaining flex points (sometimes all 35 of them) at my one big blow out meal of the week!

Insane! There were a few times I found myself taking a laxative the night before if I hadn't "gone" in a day or so, just to ensure a loss on the scale.

Now, I weigh myself infrequently, using how well I am doing with eating on plan and my dot calendar as my measures of success, along with how my body is feeling and my clothes are fitting. I would say I probably weigh myself once a week, just not always on the same day or at the exact same time. It is always in the morning after using the bathroom and before eating, but I don't stress about it like I used to.

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I loved this chapter! I do not weigh daily. I weigh weekly.

The games - oh, yes, I've played some of them. I'm at a point now where the scale stays put. I do still try to weigh first thing in the morning. I feel it gives me more consistency. However, I accept what it says. I can usually figure out now if it's up - why it's up if I 'know' that I have followed a good eating plan and done some exercises.

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Having played some of these games in the past I feel good that I have moved on from them. Good to have the reminders of past behavior and see it for what is was, a way to fool myself instead of buckling down and doing the work necessary to make lifestyle changes.

I do still have to watch where I put the scale before I weigh in the morning. We are waiting on having our bathroom floor taken up and replaced and there are several loose tiles that rock making it impossible to get an accurate reading!


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To learn the lessons and then slip back into old habits is so easy. I know the averages for me are still going down but when I needed to weigh in for the Winter 5% challenge this week I was
facing the anxiety and frustration of staying the same for the week.

I will admit to moving the Scale looking for the number I saw the day before.
emoticon It stayed the same!



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Oh I do that too. If I lose a pound I think to myself that I have "wiggle room". Then I work on not using the wiggle room. Sometimes I win!

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FWTS - Chapter 7 - The Games We Play

The game I play is eating when I lost a bunch of weight. I suppose its celebration but in reality I am taking a big risk of gaining weight back. This is yo-yo dieting and not good for the long duration. I can stop this game and remind myself to stick to my program for consistency.

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emoticon both of you. I'm weighing about 3 or 4x weekly but on my scale only. I know my gym's scale weighs about 5 lbs. less. I avoid it or any other scale like the plague. That might be an excuse to "reward myself" which I still have to watch out for or to possibly worry while I am vacation next week. I will try to practice good eating habits with a few reasonable eating adventures and weigh when I get home looking for the trend.

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Yep! I'm still doing daily weights. I'm so thankful that I have gone past the point of letting the scale affect my mood. Having weighed daily for this long means that I finally can accept the fluctuations without recrimination. When we travel I even go into the motel fitness rooms and get on the scale even though they vary greatly; I guess it is just to keep the routine going. I even write down those wild weights; the next motel scale is probably going to give me a better number.

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It's funny, but I realised today that although I'm totally cool about my own scales now, I am almost 'afraid' to step on anyone else's scale for fear of it being different!

I guess it IS only a device, and it must have degree of inaccuracy - same as tape-measures! So sticking to one scale (my own) is sensible if it's going to useful to me. I've made a Rule for myself that I only weigh on my own scales: I step on, I read the number, I step off, I write it down, I get on with my day.

I don't play games with my scale, or anyone else's scale.

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Ch. 7 ~ Games We Play

I got another big chuckle reading all previous posts describing the games we all have played with the scale. emoticon The game I still play is occasionally moving the scale and re-weighing. emoticon .

Reading this chapter caused me to weigh this morning and permanently mark my floor (again) as the mark had vanished. My scale gets moved around and the floor is uneven so hoping this game also becomes history.. I even liked what I saw. Thank you Gill and others who mentioned that weighing daily works well for you.

Now that I mostly no longer dread weighing, I am committed to weighing daily and writing it down. When I forget and eat a big breakfast, I skip it. No worries, with patience and practice, hopefully it will become a habit like my weekly weigh in.

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Teehee........The games we play are really silly and we know it so we aren't fooling anyone.

I used to make a practice of expelling every last bit of breath before stepping on the scale because that air must weigh something, right??

I've also moved the scale around.

I have tried on three different outfits before heading to my TOPS meeting only to find out that I gained anyway.

I have removed earrings that didn't weigh more than an ounce.

That is all behind me! I have seen the light........get on, get off, it is only a number provided by a tool. A number that helps me to keep from getting way off track.

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Chapter 7 Games we play

- We do crazy things to "fool the scale". That is crazy too- It doesn't care.

I can relate to the old days at WW- not eating anything before afternoon weigh-in, and then being so hangry that I binged out. Not exactly my finer moments for sure.

Standing on my tip toes barefoot, like that was going to make a difference emoticon

Giving up because I felt like I couldn't measure up to the scale emoticon Feeling like a loser and spending money to feel bad was too much for me.

I gave up trying to be good, and just let be what it was, and gained 85 lbs. Now I am ready to be responsible and accountable for my health, and am doing it in a healthful, mindful manner.



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So true Phyllis! emoticon to us all! emoticon emoticon

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The thing I love most about these lessons is seeing that we are all so much alike.
I am realizing that I will never change what I don't face up to!
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okay me too, I still move the scales around my kitchen if I want a different reading but I too know its not going to happen! I never learn but we're only human aren't we! emoticon emoticon

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Yep, I have played some of the scale games.

When I followed WW I was "really good" the day before my weigh in. I would eat early, stay in my points limit, watch salt, and wear light clothes with little to no jewelry. In my head I knew I could be off plan the day after.

In the past if it would go up or not change after a few days, I would make poor food choices as my eating plan felt like a failure. I would no think about excess carbs or sugar.

Now I have stopped most of the games. While once in awhile I will weigh 2# in the morning..... (almost 100% out of that game), I just weigh before my morning shower, before I have had anything to eat or drink. I no longer "punish" my body by making poor food choices. I feel I have made great progress.

I have a Wii in the basement with the Wii fit program. That was a scale that was easy to fool. And you bet I played most of the scale games! I no longer use it as a tool.... just for entertainment.

I just weigh in on my real scale, and no longer try to trick it. It is what it is.

This group has helped me a lot! Thank you everyone! emoticon

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Gill and Phyllis, I chuckled when I read your posts because I saw myself in them. I have been struggling to NOT play games with my scale for quite awhile. I've overcome most but I continue to move the scale around because the floor is uneven lol! does it really matter? No. Yet I do it, hopping on and off hoping for a better result. emoticon I've permanently marked the best spot and only get more disappointed when I move the scale around but does that stop me? Not yet. emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon

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Chapter #7 The Games We Play
To be very honest, in the past, I have played all the games. I've moved the scale to different areas and gotten on and off several times looking for a different number.
On Wednesday weigh-in day I always wore the same clothes! Sometimes I went at noon instead of night so I'd have a loss.
Of course I could always blame the scale, they all weigh different!
What I've learned about myself is that it is less of an issue as I observe the up and down fluctuations of day to day living and just write down the number but I still like to see a lower number. (LOL)!
Power Key 2: Remember that I can't trick the scale.


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I have trained myself NOT to play any of those games now - I step on, step off, record the number. I always have my scale in the same place in the bathroom. If I miss my morning weigh-in, I leave it for the day.

I do have anxiety in my belly when I think about being weighed somewhere else (like the doctors) and the number coming up different to mine! So I've worked out ways to stop playing games, but I'm still not totally cool with the whole weighing thing - I guess it's no worse than having your blood pressure checked - any 'check' is slightly anxious maybe. A good result is reassuring.

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1. In your notebook, list 2 or 3 things that you learned from this chapter.
-the scale number doesn't just reflect what your weight is today but what you're been doing since your last weigh in. I conceptually knew this but it is a good way to think of the number on weigh in day.
- You can’t magically shift to a different weight by playing games with the scale.

2. What are some ways you can relate to the clients or examples in this chapter? I relate to Robert who went out and binged when the number went up. Thank God I don't do that anymore.

3. What will you do differently as a result of reading this chapter?
Continue to do what I've been doing realizing that the number on the scale is just that a number and look at the trends to see if I am trending down over time which I have been doing.

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emoticon In your notebook, list 2 or 3 things that you learned from this chapter.

1) Rituals do not work and may make you more obsessive about the scale numbers

a) wearing light clothes
b) taking off jewelry
c) eating light meals; having no dinner night before
d) no eating/drinking before weigh in

2) Games do not work...period

a) move the scale to another part of the floor (me, me and me!)
b) weight yourself several times a day (nope...)
c) hold your breath while on the scale (huh?)
d) make sure your hair is dry (have done this for sure)
e) take off all jewelry (n/a)
f) go to bathroom a few times before (once!)
g) get off/on scale many times (nope)
I do weight more than once, but in fairness to me, my scale is a little screwy in that it registers incorrectly sometimes and indicate 'error' so I have to retry. Once it gives me the # without errors, I don't weight again.

emoticon What are some ways you can relate to the clients or examples in this chapter?

1) I can identify with Robert who used the scale as an excuse to overeat. "I'll show that stupid scale it can't do that to me. I'm just going to have fun and eat whatever I feel like."

emoticon What will you do differently as a result of reading this chapter?

1) Realize that when the "scale gets mean" and, although my reaction is to overeat/binge, I am not punishing the scale but myself instead!

2) Realize that the number on the scale is just that - a number! One that will be high and one that will be low and one that might stay stationary.

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emoticon In your notebook, list 2 or 3 things that you learned from this chapter.
1. I have played, at one time or another, all of these scale games.
2. I learned that I HAVE made progress, as I don't really play the games any longer. I keep the scale in the same place and weigh in the morning, sans clothes, when I wake up.

emoticon What are some ways you can relate to the clients or examples in this chapter?
1. I remember all of the games! I haven't ever blamed the scale. But I've also known that the scale gives me feedback, some of which I haven't liked.

emoticon What will you do differently as a result of reading this chapter?
1. Mainly "keep on keepin' on" and try to be consistent as to when and how I weigh so that time of day and other such variables are out of the equation. I think that will help interpret and use the scale as a tool.
2. Keep doing this study.


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I was a TOPS member for over 20 years. I was everything but a treasurer and weight reorder but I was the assistant weight recorder several times. I loved being leader but it was hard when you had to follow the rules and you had some members that were not agreeable. TOPS is how I originally lost my weight and kept it off.

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Callie I didn't know you were also a former TOPS member. I was assistant weight recorder of one for awhile. We are not the only ones with crazy weigh in rituals!

Gil that gradual downward trend is an excellent example of how trusting what we are doing, and keeping on doing it will result in results! Great job!

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emoticon In your notebook, list 2 or 3 things that you learned from this chapter.

1. The scale can be mean!
2. The scale doesn't always give you a warm, fuzzy number.
3. I'm not the only one with "scale rituals".

emoticon What are some ways you can relate to the clients or examples in this chapter?

I can definitely relate to Dee and the weigh in day rituals when I was a member of Weight Watchers. I would not eat after 11:30 AM on weigh in day, wore the same clothes, took off my shoes, and would not drink after 2 PM, plus make sure I hit the ladies room right before weigh in. I even insisted on which of two scales I would weigh on!

This meant I spent half of every Thursday work day thirsty and cranky, and would immediately eat and drink something after my weigh in.

emoticon What will you do differently as a result of reading this chapter?

I refuse to attend another evening weigh in meeting. If I ever do feel the need to go to a live meeting again, it will be as early in the AM as possible.

What I am doing right now is working for me. I weigh a couple of times a week, first thing in the morning after my bathroom visit. I wear the same outfit, aka no clothes as the scale is in my bathroom and no one else can see me except the cats.

The scale number is up this morning and I am not freaking out about it. My eating has been on plan but I had a very stressful day Monday and have had ham twice in the last five days thus it's most likely water retention and will take care of itself in a day or so.

TRUSTING the program is a new behavior of mine and I am liking the outcome. Not being in a HURRY to reach goal, instead savoring and enjoying the journey is making it easier to stick to program without extra stress of a date on a calendar.





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Really enjoying this study

I will be weighing in on Friday and it will be the 1st time I have weighed in a month. I am looking forward to putting into practice what I have been learning.

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Chapter 7 ......the Games We Play

emoticon list 2 or 3 things that you learned from this chapter.
1.Do games bring you a better accomplishment? No, and my pants still didn`t fit

2. Beating oneself up because of a simple math number is not logical. I have done this but I am learning to release this way of manner

emoticon What are some ways you can relate to the clients or examples in this chapter?
I related to Dee. I have done everyone of those games that she played. I belonged to
weight group called TOPS, for many years and I played these games every week.

emoticon What will you do differently as a result of reading this chapter?
I will accept the number on the scale as only a number and will look for how my health habits are changing, if my clothes are fitting better and how much better I feel because of a different attitude towards the scale.

emoticon Remember that I can`t trick the scale

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Friends with the Scale Chapter 7 - The Games We Play

1) weighing first thing in the morning, undressed, is the way I have removed all those behaviours that are, frankly, ridiculous! Yes, I've stood there tapping my toe on the scale to get it to re-set, and I've been at a public weighing machine removing my jumper, shoes etc! Oh dear!

2) I identified with Robert - who would react to a higher reading on the scale by doing some 'what's the point' eating! (I don't do that anymore)

3) I will continue to weigh every morning. I will continue working through this book

PS - I've been keeping weight records for four weeks now, and calculated the average week each week - every week I've reduced that average a small amount - this week I'm down 0.33lbs. These small changes - seen in a trend - are very motivating. Much more motivating than a dramatic shift. I feel like I'm really getting some useful information doing this.

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emoticon What will you do differently as a result of reading this chapter?





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