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I'm continuing to enjoy the chapter on food pushers. Today it was discussing how to do a cost analysis and there is so much to loss when accepting unplanned food. I find that many people understand the need to turn down food and like the book says if they don't its only a short mild discomfort to them.

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That's a great observation, Becki, some gatherings create a "sense of food pushing" without anyone making a comment, like you said, a desire not to feel left out.
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-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
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Today, I'm beginning this section on food pushers. I really need to think hard about this area. I don't feel like I let people push me into eating- but I feel left out when everyone else is eating and I'm not. All it takes is one little push and I tend to fall right in!

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emoticon emoticon emoticon Actually, it sounds yummilicious & Sparktacular!!! Enjoy every minute and every bite you choose to eat!!! You got this! Gr8 plan :)



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Such great feedback and insights here.

Wish me luck tonight. It is a miserable wet day and I am going out to eat at a lovely restaurant. I looked at the menu and have planned my choices. I have a picture of thin me and my worth it memories on my phone. I will read my advantages before I go out. And I plan to look at skinny people's plates for inspiration. I will look out the window at the angry ocean for distraction. And I will enjoy the companionship of a like minded woman who is also interested in losing weight and using CBT to do it. Actually this sounds like an entertaining kind of evening.

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Food Pusher Trap #5 ~ The Illegitimate to say no Trap

~ how true is this? how often do we serve and put others first and set aside our own needs?

~ it is a change in thinking ~ that it is ok to take care of our own essential needs, that it is necessary even, not selfish... then to claim it, own it, believe it, act it, live it...
-- just like Frosty choosing his own nose!
-- or like we would take care of any Santa Baby, it is ok to take care of ourselves
-- part of taking care of ourselves, is choosing why/when/where/what & how we eat... If we want to indulge and eat a little more, that's fine... if we have already had enough to eat? then it is ALWAYS ok to stop eating and eat more later...
-- I can choose not to eat something; it is always ok to not eat something. I would not eat crab because it hurts me... overeating hurts me too when I eat too much over time, so I can choose to get sicker and fatter and unhappier... or I can nourish myself with enough food (not too little, not too much, food I like that likes me) or not.... It's always simply my choice and I want to choose me, take care of me, nourish me, love and be kind to me... as well as I would for family, for a friend, for my furbabies, for a Santa Baby...



Food Pusher #6 The Willing Accomplice Trap

emoticon LOL, we have a lot of that going on in our family ~ hey, I'll have one if you'll have one!!! Everyone bring your holiday candies & goodies for a New Years Last Hurrah buffet! We'll eat, drink, make Merry & ring in the new year together!!!

When is enough enough? How much do we want to indulge? Can we eat just 1 bite or 2 or are we feasting like there's no tomorrow? Well, I'll tell you, during the holidays, our family does eatfest for the season, like it's the Last Meal, Last Feast, Last time we'll get this treat until next year! And it was all too much... at some point, I had to decide what was truly special for me... some... enough, not too little, not too much... enjoy some of the treats, and mostly, enjoy catching up and festing with the people!!! Make Merry ~ with love, laughter and time together ~ this is what is really important to me...

Once I decided that, the little decisions along the way become easier...
~ like regular foods, regular days
~ eat a little more during the truly special occasion/feast, then push the plate back and enjoy the visit!
~ doing this is happy making ~ helps me take care of myself and that's a really good thing for all my personal reasons ~ it is ok to take care of my essential needs ~ so stay conscious, make the choices and totally enjoy what I choose, no regrets!



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Thank you for the insightful summary!
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-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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emoticon Mary - the give yourself credit was something that felt a bit childlike and also silly to me when I first thought about it... however, I also realized that I spent a lot of time upset about the things I goofed up... and for me, it was a bit like turning my chair around... Instead of looking back and grieving over the goofups/struggles, I keep deciding to turn my chair, face forward and focus on the good stuff, the positives, the things I do right - It was eye opening that we do a gazillion things right and something wrong then dwell in the wrong, and sometimes that wrong and upsetness would be my trigger to quit and have an eatfest that might last for days... changing that to focus forward, strategize what might be, practice that, learn from my goofups and go do better next time, then celebrate the win... it is a different & happier focus for me and surprised me how much it helps! and took practice! I got a little pink bracelet to wear and when I noticed it would stop & woohoo! ;)

emoticon nods @ Kriszta! yes, it helped me too to figure out an eating approach... this year I tweaked it for my diabetes and decided to not increase carbs much but instead to focus on specialty meats and veggies... even that has helped...

emoticon ok food pusher traps!

1 of the things that emerges for me is how much this usually has to do with cultural eating together and being a good hostess who's doing these things for love... AND that goes for me, when I"m offering/preparing/gathering food for others! Perhaps it's just part of what we've been taught as women to do/serve and put the needs of others first...

when we stop and realize that it is necessary to take care of our own essential needs too and first... then the rest gets a bit easier to sort...



so here are my thoughts on Food Pusher Traps
#3 The Buzz Kill
#4 The People Pleaser
somehow these seem intertwined for me because both happen when we put other people's feelings before our own needs...

The Buzz Kill #3
-- eye opener lesson - I am not responsible for what other people eat. It is not my responsibility to join them and eat so that they will feel good eating & drinking...

-- what I can do (strategy)
-join them, sit and visit, catch up with life, live, love & laugh together.
-eat what I planned to eat, then push the plate away, when they offer more say no thank you, that was delish!!! and turn the conversation to life... what's going on with them... you know often when you ask, people will yak your ear off and maybe even forget to offer you more food or might move on to the next person! LOL
-if they're being persistent, break the moment, go to the bathroom, take dishes to the kitchen, excuse myself and say I'll be right back...

emoticon I have the right to turn down too much food so I don't hurt my body.

emoticon #4 the People Pleaser Trap
yes, this was eye opening too because how often do we take something so we don't hurt somone's feelings or they say... oooh, you're going to love it! try it! I made some just for you or I know this is your fav recipe! Aren't they being a great hostess???

emoticon emoticon emoticon the cost benefit analysis is a good thing here

cost to the food pusher - might pop their bubble that I didn't take more food, or maybe not... they might not even remember it much later... but they will accept it, I doubt they will think about it much again later

cost to me... - it might get stuck in my brain that I failed again... it might trigger me to quit... why bother, I so blew it, then throw down the towel and have an eatfest that might last days, weeks even months before I try again.... waves hand, that used to be a typical excuse/sabotaging train of thought for me...

- another cost to me is that overeating - would definitely slow down any possible weight loss... and sometimes I might choose to indulge in extra food but it is a choice I want to make consciously... so that when I do choose to eat extra, I eat it and enjoy it, no guilt... and when I reach the point that enough is enough, then just stop. I can always eat, make or buy more later if I still want more later.

- the idea of a resistance muscle - that when we give ourselves excuses to overeat, the easier it is to overeat in that situation next time... I think that is true... and changing it will feel uncomfortable and actually trying to change it the 1st time or 3rd time or even after that, well, I just might blow it... in fact when I started changing my holiday eating strategy to eat 1 nice plateful instead of graze the whole feast with multiple plates/desserts... well I did blow it... and sometimes I felt despair that I would ever manage to change that.... so that simply means that it is not the end of the world it means we simply need more practice until we nail it!

emoticon and we can and will nail it! because we're doing this to take care of ourselves!!! and that is always ok ~ to take care of ourselves :)

ok - will do traps #5 & #6 tomorrow... /nuff4now! Cheers :)

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My post today is more about the foundation strategies than the chapter on food pushers. Just yesterday I promised myself that I would write a response card for the willing accomplice trap that so many of us fall into. I promptly went on with my day and did not realize I skipped it again until I reviewed the strategies this morning. I have them all down with two exceptions. I am rotten at giving myself credit and I have never ever used the response card technique.

Instead of credit I do experience pleasure when I realize I have done something well. These days I get to feel good about my Beck program quite a lot. That is not exactly the same thing as giving myself credit. Working on that one.

And the response card thing clearly makes sense. I am resolving once again to get on it. Right this minute.

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Mary, that's a great way to look at the food pusher trap. Congrats to your 47 sugar free days and to reaching your mini goal!
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@LIFECHANGZ thank you for sharing your analysis of the first two traps!
Also thanks for the reminder about pink book suggestion to plan 25% more for special occasions, I find that very helpful.
"so that leads naturally, well, then what is enough to eat and where do I draw the line?"
For me it works the best if I decide upfront what my +25% will be. I find it very difficult to make good decisions in the middle of a celebration or party, with so many distractions, and yes some potential food pushers too. If I try to decide on the spot, it rarely goes well.



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-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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I read the 1st two food pusher traps and wanted to share my thoughts before I do more

emoticon in the pink book, Dr Beck mentions she has a personal food rule that she'll eat up to 25% more on special occasions/at parties ~ and I found that helpful ~ that we can adjust what/when/how/why/where we eat for our own personal reasons ~ we are free to choose...

out of that is my every day, regular eating approach,
and for truly special occasions such as holiday feasts, group parties... I do increase how much I eat... -- I increase food from weight loss to weight maintain, and sometimes another serving or two if I desire more. my special occasions are infrequent, and I realized that my "reasons to overeat every day in a gazillion ways" were not for "special reasons" so I worked to define what/when were truly special for me ~ an emotional compromise for me is to indulge a little more on the truly special occasions :)

emoticon so that leads naturally, well, then what is enough to eat and where do I draw the line? /l\ points up to my definition of how I increase food...

and after I have eaten enough, and it is time to stop eating, then what do I do?

and this is where pondering these food pusher traps is helpful

1) if I need to eat more and I actually want to eat the food offered, then take some (choose it) and enjoy it (guilt free :)

2) if I do not need to eat more, then stop.
-- that is often the hard part, when our brain is bonking us with "eat more" sabotaging thoughts... and this is where it will just take practice, strategy, more practice until we nail this too!

emoticon so here is how it kind of goes with food pushers for me and my escape plan...


#1: The Chronic Hard Sell Trap - people keep pushing you to eat even when you say no.
emoticon they say/imply - ooh, so glad to see you, come in, make yourself comfortable, eat, drink & be merry! here, have some of this wonderful food!!!
-- I think these people are being "wonderful, loving, kind hostesses who enjoy seeing people be happy happy! I don't think it is malicious, I think it is what they do...

emoticon at the point when I have too much.... my brain might be trying to wheedle for more...

it tastes so good! Response... yes, it did but you had enough. Strategy - Reassure inner 2 year old child I can and will have more later, then push the plate back, pat my tummy, think I'm full enough... and it's time to enjoy the people

emoticon but the food pusher persists and offers me more...
sabotaging thought is the same here, my brain always wants to wheedle more but I have had enough so it is simply time to stop... and now to get the food pusher to stop encouraging my inner 2 year old child!!!

my strategy/response to the food pusher... no thank you,
and repeat no thank you again if needed...
and again if necessary...
and sometimes again, and reassure the food pusher too
-- thank them for all the beautiful food, how nice everything smells, looks, tasted...
-- offer to help
-- ask for their recipe
-- pat my tummy and assure them I would but already too full, maybe more later!

they will often at that point move along and push food on someone else! LOL and I will have helped myself through a tough temptation to overeat!!! Woot! How awesome is that???



emoticon #2: The Passive Pushee Trap - you wait for the pusher to stop pushing rather than just refusing
-- this was interesting to ponder and a bit eye opening...
-- it is the food pusher's delight (what they do) to offer me food
-- it is ok for me to say no and take care of myself... instead of expecting the food pusher to stop offering, I just need to practice and find ways to say no nicely or if needed, to deflect the push… it's ok to take care of myself and my own needs to stop eating when I have had enough, because my reasons and I truly matter too... so when I say no to a food pusher, it is not to hurt the food pusher, it is to take care of my own essential needs, and that is always ok... no guilt! If they asked me to jump off a cliff, there's no way... I should not have to overeat because they asked me to... and I can say no thankyou in a kind way that makes them feel happy & appreciated too :)

emoticon will ponder the other food pusher traps this weekend :)

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I'm that willing accomplice too. It does not take much persuasion for me to give in to the mildest suggestion that the white flour pasta with the cream sauce is ok just this once. Or that chocolate cake is so perfect that it really would be a shame to miss it. I am in a very good place today. I reached my. first mini weight goal and I am now at day 47 off sugar. I do not see any traps in the next couple of days. My challenge will be to remember that I am the willing accomplice when I am next in a situation where I am tempted. I will have to make a daily reminder card for this one to keep it fresh even after we have moved on to another chapter.

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Hi Everyone, I just noticed I forgot to post Week 2 Food Pushers trap in the main challenge message board - sorry about that, I did it now!

Great observations, Trina and Sunshine!
In this round the Willing Accomplice trap seems to be the issue for most of us : )
Certainly it is for me, I completed my escape plan this morning and wrote a blog about it:
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-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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This was an interesting read for me as it was one of my lowing scoring sections, yet the very night I finished reading the chapter, I noticed my Dad pushing food on me. So, I became aware of it happening to me, but also that my resistance is fairly good to this issue.

My problem, much like fount of blessing is "willing accomplice". Sometimes I really do want to eat the food and just need a little push. So, it's having a stronger sense of what I want. Not the immediate nice feelings of eating food I want to eat, but the longer term goals of healthy eating behaviours.

Also becoming aware of my "people pleaser" tendencies. Something I need to build an escape plan for.

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I am definitely the "willing accomplice". I really want to eat it anyway and usually end up not really caring. Not a good response at all. I'm creating an escape plan that deals with me giving into myself. I can say no when people push food on me, but eventually cave in to myself. I've not eaten at a get together, but then eat stuff when I get back home and even overeat. So my escape plan must get me through this.

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Maria, that's a great point about food ordered without your permission!
I imagine it is probably meant as an act of kindness (like buying someone a drink), and the person may not remember that you truly don't want it : )
But if you repeatedly don't touch the unwanted treat, people will get used to the thought "Maria doesn't eat it - looks like she really doesn't want it".
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I'm working on my escape plan for Christmas cookies.
Two years ago I ate one cookie... and in a blink of an eye I ate 6 or 8 more, 1000 calories worth and it was so hard to stop even then!
This year I will not eat one single peace, I treasure my peace with food more. I can do it. Christmas Milka chocolate bonbons used to be my nemesis, and I put 5 pounds of them on the Christmas tree every year as decoration (Hungarian tradition) - but in the past 2 years I didn't eat one piece, and I was so much happier.
My main sabotaging thoughts are "s/he out in so much work, I need to show appreciation" and "if I don't eat the cookies will go waste" and "cookies are part of tradition and celebration, I should participate" - arising even without anyone saying a word about it...
My #1 strategy is prevention: I started to tell bakers in my family that this year I will not have cookies, please consider this when they plan amounts. So, if they bake too much, it is not my responsibility!
#2 strategy is reminding myself of the worth it memories of past Christmas times when I was free from struggling with the Milka bonbons and from side effects - I can do this with cookies too... to be continued!
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-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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When I was younger I used to fall into the food pusher trap regularly. Later I narrowed it down but I especially had problems with a dear friend who regularly served me large portions of desserts at her home potlucks. From experience, SP and repeatedly reading studies like Beck and others, I now have some good strategies, but an actual written Escape Plan would be much better. Last time, unaware, I suddenly "found" banana cream pie on a plate in my hands and ate more than I had planned but less than I had desired. lol

Like you Kriszta, I can fall for the willing accomplice trap. I need to have a plan beforehand deciding yes or no, how much and then follow through. Also group pressure can be very challenging.

I just completed an Escape Plan for a birthday get together where tradition dictates ice cream for everybody. It's awful ice cream (the kind that barely melts...ever). But it is a lot of fun and great ladies from my water aerobics class.

Some of my Sabotaging Thoughts are: It's a tradition, I feel like a pariah and a party pooper, with out permission someone bought me some last time, in a cone it melted a bit and was messy, probably easier to just eat it.

Reminders are: Not healthy, almost tasteless, not worth the calories. I have said no and resisted every time, deep down they do respect me, remind them this is how I have kept off unwanted lbs., remind them I let it melt last time. There are a lot of birthdays. I do not want weight creep or to gain over the holidays.

Strategies: If some one orders without my permission, put it in a dish and let it melt again. I have already baked a pumpkin bread to share. Tell them I will have a moderate piece of this instead, remind them again this is how I maintain with choices every day, send leftovers with birthday girl.

I feel ready for Wednesday's get together.. emoticon

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Note: this is my personal post about the chapter,
please scroll one down for summary and instructions!

Food pushers used to be a big challenge for me, but after years of practice I can say I'm better at this.
I'm quite immune to most of the traps, first because I became very determined to say no to others, second because my family and friends got used to it. When it's about eating a goodie between meals, or desserts after dinner, they often say "oh you are not going to have any, are you?" : )

The one that still bothers me is the "Willing Accomplice" trap: when I want to eat something very much, just sensing the group dynamics of celebration is enough to give in. Being mindful of this tendency, and applying anti-craving techniques help me, but this is the situation I give in most often. Typically I do pretty well during Christmas, but give in often during summer which is season of vacation, travel and birthdays.


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Maintenance Lessons Learned:
-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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**************Week 2: 26 November - 2 December **********************
Chapter 5: FOOD PUSHER TRAPS

This week we will skip chapters 3 and 4 and jump to chapter 5, because we do the chapters relevant to winter holiday season first.
Let's read and discuss these food pusher traps together - which ones are relevant to you? What are you thinking?
Did anyone (tried to) push food on you recently?

#1: The Chronic Hard Sell Trap - people keep pushing you to eat even when you say no.
#2: The Passive Pushee Trap - you wait for the pusher to stop pushing rather than just refusing
#3: The Buzz Kill Trap - you feel responsible for making other people feel better about what they are eating and drinking.
#4: The People Pleaser Trap - you are concerned you'll disappoint food pushers by turning down their food.
#5: The Illegitimate to Say No Trap - you feel it's not legitimate to say no to food pushers.
#6: The Willing Accomplice Trap - you don't put up much of a fight because, truthfully, you want to eat!

GENERAL INSTRUCTIONS FOR ALL TRAPS:
How to create escape plans? (explained in detail only once, at the end of chapter Foundation Strategies) - we will apply them for all traps
1. Identify each situation in which the trap is likely to occur, and specify the trap at the top of Escape Plan template
2. Describe a specific situation in which this trap might arise
3. Record your sabotaging thoughts - what could go through your mind in this situation?
4. Write a compelling response to each sabotaging thought
(lots of examples in the book)
5. Develop a list of strategies
6. Review your escape plan often - (especially at times when the situation is likely to happen)
7. Revise your escape plan - after the situation is over, evaluate how it went

NEW READERS - don't worry if you haven't mastered all the ten Foundation Strategies yet. You can continue working on them one at a time, and work on the traps together with the group, in parallel. Take your time! Complete the Foundation Strategies Checklist every day for those Foundation Strategies you already mastered and the new one you are learning now.

The Foundation Strategies Checklist and Escape Plan (completed Example and blank Template) are available in the appendices of the book, and on the Beck Diet Solution official site:
diet.beckinstitute.org/resour
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Goal weight:
59 +- 1 kg /// 130 +-2 pounds
CET (Europe, Hungary)

Maintenance Lessons Learned:
-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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