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1/30/13 12:21 A

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So glad you kept playing with it until it worked. emoticon

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1/29/13 5:07 P

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OMG THAT'S WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!! CONGRAULATIONS!!!!!


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1/29/13 2:13 P

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Guess what I can do!!!

I can do a flip turn!!!

I started with a somersault in the water and nearly lost my lunch. But then I rested a minute and made myself do another one. The more I did it the easier it got. And I found it's best to keep my eyes open and breathe hard through my nose while I'm flipping. After a few of those I moved over closer to the wall. On the first one I pushed off the wall and ran straight into the lane line LOL. A few more tries after that and I felt more confident. So during my 10 length cool down, I did a flip turn at each length! emoticon

Granted, they are terribly messy and slow, but I did it! Now it's something I can work on and get better at it. I feel accomplished today!! emoticon

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1/20/13 4:21 P

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Sounds like a plan!

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1/20/13 4:18 P

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I'm thinking that too. Try it without fins. I've been practicing bilateral breathing when I'm warming up and cooling down, because it's slow and relaxed and I'm less focused on technique and speed. I can do the same with the flip turns. But even before that, I need to get in the pool and just practice being upside down. Like handstands and then let myself fall over onto my back, and then do it closer and closer to the wall until I'm close enough to actually push off. I need to experiment with how fast I do it to see at what point it's likely to make me disoriented or nauseated.

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1/20/13 3:11 P

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I wonder if the quickness of flipturns with fins is part of the problem. What about gradually adding flipturns in when you're swimming without fins? I hate doing flipturns with fins on b/c it doesn't *feel* right to me. And I suspect starting there, with such a quick turn, is going to be more nausea-inducing.

How about when you start adding in no fins, gradually adding in flip turns too. Maybe once ever 200 yards, then once every 100 yards, etc?

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1/19/13 1:20 P

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I remember when I first attempted doing flip turns again in my 40's I felt slightly dizzy. I think it may just be the body not being used to that movement any more. It might help to get a nose clip so you can do the movement really slow and not worry about getting water up your nose. Over time your body will learn. I know that flip turns should ultimately be fast but think that doing them very slowly away from the wall will make it so much easier at first until your feel and proprioception (where your body is in space) for it gets better. emoticon emoticon
By the way, mine are nice and straight but still slow now.
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Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 1/19/2013 (13:21)
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1/19/13 8:06 A

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Thanks Birgit! I don't get dizzy outside of the pool, or in the pool for that matter, except on the flip turns. Although after you said that, I did try a few forward rolls on the floor just to see what would happen. Nearly broke my back (LOL!!) but no dizziness. So it's something about the way I'm doing it in the water. Maybe I'm doing it too fast?

I'll try your suggestion of breaking it down in the water into several pieces. I don't have access to a diving board or an exercise ball. Maybe I just need to get in the water and do just that for a half hour.

I wonder how much of it is the aging process. My mother used to constantly complain, "you spend more time upside down than right side up!" As a kid, I was constantly flipping around and doing handstands and headstands everywhere, in the water and out, and I never had a problem with dizziness.

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1/18/13 7:04 P

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I would try to sort through it the following way: Do you get dizzy at other times outside the pool?

If you do it could be something related to swelling in the inner ear and/or infection.

If not, can you break down the movement into several pieces? How about a handstand in the water (starting with water as deep as you are tall)?
If that works you could try a flip turn while holding both arms out to the side for balance.
Another way to try is to use a 1 meter diving board and practice diving in for part of the turn.
Another alternative would be to use an exercise ball (large) and lean over it forward and see if that affects your balance. Next you could do a somersault onto a gym mat for practice.
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LMB-ESQ's Photo LMB-ESQ Posts: 12,222
1/18/13 6:49 P

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and if I do too many, I get nauseated and have to stop.

I can do the physical turn, when I was a kid I did them all the time. But now they literally make me sick. So now I'm afraid to try them. The last thing I need is to lose my lunch in the pool!

Why would that happen? And how do I get over it?

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