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11/14/13 6:07 P

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East Coast warm March? (grin). It's still pretty cold in the water here in March.

Mary- not to hijack this thread but Gor may find it useful. My shorts are IST, worn with a shorty top in warm water and under a 3-2 in colder. Got them from Seavenger (again, no connection).

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11/14/13 5:08 P

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Thanks. I haven't bought it yet. If I could find one for $100, I would be happy, but I know that typically, they run a little more at the store recommended by some open water swimmers I know.

I am California, so it doesn't have to be East Coast warm, but right now I have short legged one and my legs get cold in March, when I first tried the bay.

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11/14/13 4:04 P

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I'm late to this conversation.

Goriana-Did you buy a wetsuit? I picked up mine a year or so ago from Costco. They were having one of their "road shows" and had diving equipment, too. I'd seen Kourtney's posts about finding hers for $100 and walked into Costco and they had one for $99.

Mine is an IST Proline full suit, but don't know the thickness. I was perfect for the Alcatraz swim in 62 degree water.

I did borrow a cap (red) from a friend and would definitely purchase one, especially if I swim in cold water often.

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10/4/13 6:35 P

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Oh, and I would add, go the more colorful suit if available. I normally swim early (dawn) AM and the only boat traffic I encounter is a commercial 26 footer going out and they're pros as opposed to a neighbor out on the water all day coming in after having a few when I'm swimming later. I also swim the channel edges, hitting strokes on the bottom once in a while to know where I am. Yes, I'm paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Stay safe.

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10/4/13 6:07 P

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For a first suit, try http://seavenger.com/ or do a Google there are lots out there.

I've found Seavenger has good prices, lots of sizing charts and if you send your measurements they'll suggest a size for a particular suit (nice).

No affiliation.

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10/4/13 4:20 P

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Kourtney $100, wow, I hope I'm lucky enough to find something at that price point. Maybe I'll just hang out at the store until they have a sale. Every place has sales, right?

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mm = millimeter

Edit: Sorry, I missed that you didn't know what your suit thickness is. Duh on me.

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OK so I didn't read everything Jon said, but I have an Xterra wetsuit, full legs but "sleeveless" top, and I adore it. It cost me about $100 I think (no sleeves makes it cheaper and fitting easier, although I did that for my shoulders long-term, and it was also on sale).

I love it and have used it for years. I swim in the San Francisco Bay mostly, and while my arms are cold when I start, I adjust about a 1/4 mile in.

Not sure if that'll help, but WOO HOO GO YOU and enjoy shopping! xoxo

EDIT - Just read skimmed Jon's post - I'm not sure what my mm thickness is. xoxo

Edited by: BADASSBLONDIE at: 10/4/2013 (04:12)
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10/3/13 8:14 P

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You'll be amazed at the warmth after a dozen strokes in some really cold water.

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10/3/13 8:10 P

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Thanks Jon, for the great details. Now, I know something before I begin shopping.

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Hi Goriana! Lots of choices in wetsuits. The first thing is to learn the lingo. Wetsuits are measured in millimeters of thickness. A 5mm suit is good for deep into cold water (50s). A 1mm is really just to keep the jellyfish off in summer. The next step is something like a 3-2. This is a 3mm body and 2mm extremities. This keeps warmth to the core and flexibility to the extremities. It's a good three season suit, good to 60 but your time in the water will drop as the temp does. A shorty or summer suit will be a bottom an top or a one piece of both. A shorty will always have legs that cover half the thighs and may or may or may not have short sleeves. They are usually 2mm. A wetsuit has a nylon or similar lining to help donning. You can add a hood (attached to the suit or otherwise) in varying thicknesses, the same with gloves and socks or boots. I like separate hoods as I can donn it in early spring with a suit and drop it as the water warms. Same with gloves (1mm - 5 mm) and socks / boots. I like boots as they tuck under the full suit legs, socks come up short in meeting the suit (same thicknesses). which brings up...

A wet suit works by having a very thin layer of water between you and the suit. Your body warms the water and keeps body warmth loss to the minimum allowed by water temp , exertion and length of time in the water. You want a good seal at wrists and ankles to prevent the warmed water exchanging with cold. For guys, this means no board or baggy shorts which extend the the distance from body to suit. Ladies suits are a pretty good thing in this instance.

The thicker the suit the less mobility one has with the stroke. As such, make sure you do big rolls with Aussie Crawl to limit chaffing around the neck. Turn your body, not your neck (but that's standard procedure anyway, just emphasize it). Also- I've had problems in the past as the booty's thickness increases without using the fins they were designed to be used with. Booties or socks have a designed in flex forward. Without a fin forcing the foot into supination (away from the body) I've gotten cramps in the foot arch. It took me a long time to figure that out. The lighter the boot, the better the swim.

I love the three season system I've worked out by trial and error so, anything else, post it or private mail.

Edit for spel chek and gramer.

Jon

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10/3/13 6:45 P

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Hi, I think it is time for me to buy a wetsuit for open water swims, but I don't know what to look for and how to go about it. Any suggestions on features or brands or care?

There is a local store that is affiliated with my beginning open water swim group, but I'm afraid to go in because I fear it will be quite expensive. However, I do think I could benefit from being in a store where I can try things on and get advice from people that know. What do you think I should know before hand?

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