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So sorry about Serena. Our little one was recently diagnosed with a large (grade 4) murmur, enlarged heart & imflamatory bowel disease. Triple whammy!! Treating the heart and going to watch her for a while to see how she is doing on the meds. So I can understand your feelings. Best wishes.

We didn't know about being able to seal laminate flooring. We are considering putting it in the kitchen & dining area. Will look into it. Thanks for the comments.

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Thanks for all the good advice on floors here. Housebreaking Serena is still a challenge. I was sooo sure she was trained after a week with no accidents - until yesterday when I was sitting on the sofa in the living room, talking on the phone, and she squatted right down on the carpet to pee. Later that night I realized she wasn't in the room with us and went upstairs to find her tearing apart a bag of trash. The scariest thing of all is when she puts herself in "time out" in her pen and we don't know why LOL. Good thing we love her so much.

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That definitely sounds much better than the laminate flooring. That is what he used and no he did not seal anything. I advised him to get vinyl flooring with how he is, but no... he wanted a warranty. Too bad it won't work for him not cleaning things up like they need to be. He's a guy... Nothing else needs said! lololololololol

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Jean....no bubbles burst at all!
You are talking about a nail down actual wood and it definitely is more difficult to put down than a vinyl like the Allure I was talking about.
Nail down is alot of work for sure!

The click and lock laminate (fake woods) and the engineered woods are a bit easier than what your friend did.

Btw...they sell little packs of spacers to make it easy for around the edges but pencils would be a creative idea too! I would never have enuf of them laying around tho...lol!

And you are correct in that urine can seep through woods over time. Hopefully your friend was advised to seal the joints as he laid it cuz that really helps.

Now the allure is waterproof...it has overlapping edges that stick to each other so it is a wizz to clean up wizz....hah hah...I tried to make a "funny"

I have to say however....I am such a fan of actual woods for the beauty and added value they put on a home...we have so many exotic species at the Depot and they are expensive as all get up but soooo beautiful!!!

Of course it is easy for me to talk....cuz I am renting!!!!!! Maybe someday tho.............

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With that flooring that looks like wood... You cannot leave water on it or it will work it's way down into the crackers and cause problems. So if a puppy goes potty on it and you do not find it right away, you are heading for problems. The warranty will not be any good. My honey put it in his house and it is harder than you think with cutting it and all. You must pound it into place and it breaks the edges very easily. You must have a ton of pencils or other objects of like size to put all around the outsides of your room so things will stay in place after you put the finishing trim down. I must say that I would not like to have it in my house after being around his. I'd rather have linoleum floors instead. Sorry if I busted anyone's bubble...

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Thanks Kris !! When the day comes to replace our floors, I'll definitely look into that vinyl. It looks nice.

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Depot Babe here....

check out Armstrong Allure you guys....it is vinyl that comes in planks and they stick to each other, not the floor...they float so it will go over pretty much any floor. All you need is a sharp utility knife along with extra blades....a straight edge and hopefully knee pads (chalk line is helpful)

They say a 5th grader can lay it....

it is waterproof with a 25 year warranty...READ directions!!!!!!!

We sell a ton of it....HGTV has been showcasing it often in their quick flip shows cuz it so easy.

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Marilyn - That's exactly what I'm looking at. My carpet is so bad it is beyond spot cleaning. I"m going to clean the carpets one more time when I return from vacation then hopefully I'll get enough money back on taxes to do the vinyl. I was suprised how much it looks like woood.

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Hi Becky, I was looking at my living room and dining room and thinking how great it would be to replace the carpets with a type of vinyl that looked like wood floors. My husband wasn't thrilled with that idea so I guess we'll keep spot cleaning and then WHEN, not IF Serena is finally trained, we'll get the carpets steam cleaned.

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Hi Kris, you mentioned that when you say NO to Daisy, she thinks it's wrong to go poo anyplace. That's what I've been afraid of about Serena when she goes on the rug. If we see a wet spot and say "who did that?" she runs down the steps to her pen. She can go a whole week using the potty pads and then spend a whole day sneaking off to go on the carpets. I was getting so discouraged but now I just confine her to the kitchen after she eats for a while and make sure she goes to the powder room very often. We keep pads in both places and she definitely knows what they're there for and that she gets a treat every time she uses them. If she has an accident we clean it up and tell her it's a good thing she's so cute.

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I agree with the difficulties potty training. Choncho usually lets me know when he needs to go out, Leni is great using the pee pee pads but Bella, usually using the carpet occasionally in the morning will go outside if I pick her up and carry her outside. My carpet is destroyed, and I know it's Bella and Choncho. GRRRRRRRRRR Linda may have had her trained but she forgot, or got lazy.

I'll be looking to put no floors in soon. :(

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Josephine I'm am still sad about Bella....it is never easy. I can't stand the thought of either of my babies not being here with me. GiGi will soon be 4 years old and Daisy will be three.
GiGi was pretty easy to potty pad train but Daisy...3 years???? Still has issues so I agree with you on the difficulty. I personally think that when they are so little and we say a resounding NO about something they get extra scared. Like Daisy id great about pee pee on the pad....but if I catch her abut to leave a poo poo somewhere else and say NO...she thinks it is just wrong to go poo poo in general...not that it is where she is doing it that is wrong.

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Sorry to burst your bubble Jam223 but that's not always true. I had ZuZu's litter pee pad trained before they left the whelping box.

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Chi's are notoriously difficult to house break My Bella took 6 months unfortunitely we lost her this past Christmas to an enlarged heart and fluid around the heart. One day she is running around the house acting normal the next she is sickly and quiet. we rushed her to the vet and there was nothing he could do she was too sick. But we at least had 10 years of loving her. And now we have Paco. He is only 17 weeks old and we to are working and house breaking FUN. But he is a sweet heart.


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Hi Becky, Sasha and Serena are co-existing. No fights or even real growls. Serena is bolder but Sasha is starting to sniff at Serena a little. I think they're used to each other already and Serena is getting friendlier with my daughter and grandson when they stop by. Except for the housebreaking efforts, it's been a lot of fun.

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YAFENELRA, I hope Serena won't be hopeless. I'm already thinking about how much easier it would be to replace my carpets with something easier to clean. I just mixed up a bottle of white vinegar and water to spray on the carpets.

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Well, Lil' Bit just dragged the potty pads around the house. I tried the litter box but she tried to eat the litter that was special for dogs. She is a hopeless case.

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YAFENELRA, I remember it took Sasha quite a while to realize her potty was in our powder room. We just bought pee pads and put them in that room for Serena. I've been keeping her there for short periods of time. Hopefully she'll get the message.

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Good luck with that!! Mine don't do so well in that respect. : (

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Thanks Linda. Now for the potty training.....yikes!!!

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Marilyn - I'm so glad to hear you got good news and Serena is going to be OK!



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GOOD NEWS !!! The vet just called with the results of Serena's blood work and stool sample and everything looks good. She would still like a urine sample but all the rest is great. Now I'll start her on heart worm prevention and let her walk outside on her leash. I feel like a huge weight has been lifted from my shoulders and my husband will be very happy too.

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Hi Marilyn

I'm so sorry to hear about the heart murmur, but KimbeeJ has good advise. I wanted to tell you after I got Bella spayed she was having accidents too, she usually uses the pee pee pad but she was peeing everywhere and she even did poo poo on my chair. She has recovered from her surgery and isn't doing that anymore so hold out hope.

Give them both ((hugs)) I hope Sasha is adjusting.

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Thanks everybody for your concern and advice. I've been waiting all day to hear the test results from our vet's office. If I don't hear anything by noon tomorrow I'll call. No luck housebreaking her yet. I'm afraid if I say "no" when she squats, she'll think I mean not to pee. It seems so long since we had to do this with Sasha. Serena is an odd little dog - in some ways very shy with new people but also bold in a lot of other ways.

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Sorry to hear about Serena.

I had a similar experience with the shelter I adopted Weezer from. They did not tell me of his heart murmur, skin condition, that he had rubber jaw from being malnourished or that his two remaining teeth were rotten. They insisted on neutering him even though he was 11 years old but didn't bother on removing the rotten teeth?

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Heart murmurs are graded on sound...how loud they are. They range from 1 out of 6 (mild) to 6 out of 6 (most severe). Many dogs are born with them. A young dog that shows no symptoms can do just fine for quite a long time. It's a good idea to have her checked periodically for any changes. If it progresses, there are some excellent medications that can help the heart work more efficiently. In the meantime, enjoy her and know you are providing her with a loving home for the rest of her life. :)

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That is sad news but she will have a good home provided for her well being. And that is a wonderful blessing!!!

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Hi gals! Wow sweetie so sorry that Serena has a heart murmur. emoticon

I'm glad that she found her new home though b/c I know she and Sasha will be great buddies and provide you with years of happy memories!

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Cal had many years with the diagnosis so maybe yours wil do okay. But with medication.

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YAFENELRA, I'm sorry you had to put Cal down. Apparently there are different stages of heart murmurs. Serena's is stage 2 and Sasha's stage 3. I've been on edge for a whole week waiting for results - first if we were approved for the adoption, then if Sasha and Serena would get along and now results of her blood work and stool sample. I have a feeling that my little Serena had been sadly neglected for a long time and the breeder would probably have faced criminal charges for having SO MANY dogs, which is why she insisted all the background info. remain anonymous. Serena is fun and way more aggressive than Sasha. She finally got the courage to come down one set of steps on her own. It's 7 steps and identical to the other set that she had been running up and down for the day. More later.

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Well, at least it is treatable. My Cal was diagnosed several years before I had to put him down. And may not have had to do it then had he been put on Lasix.

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Oh, dear, how sad!

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There are several things about Serena's adoption that are disturbing. We were denied her complete health records and her background - even her age is a mystery, with the shelter saying she's 6 and the vet who spayed her recording her age as 4. Today I asked my vet to do a complete check up, including total blood work and even another heart worm test. The vet asked me why I decided to adopt another dog and I said that when Sasha was diagnosed with a heart murmur at the age of 11, it made me very sad and I thought it would help to have another dog in our family. Anyway, she took Serena to the examination room and when she came back she said "I dread telling you this, but Serena also has a heart murmur." At this point she's not recommending medication. We have to wait a few days to get the results of the other tests. In the meantime we're becoming very attached to Serena even though she's a stubborn little thing and currently peeing all over the house. We'll get more serious with housebreaking as the days go by. The vet said since she was just spayed last week, she may still be feeling the effects of surgery.
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