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yes slow cookers are awesome

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I am from the south & really miss burgoo since going vegan! Thanks for sharing this recipe!!!
Is it okay to cook in the slow cooker? I would think so.....Anyway I am going to make this sometime this week :) Can't wait!!!
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Hi DELEONGU!! I'm so happy you found this group!!! As you can tell, these people are the most wonderful, supportive people you could find.

I started my 6 weeks on July 9th. I haven't weighed myself, but I'm down a pants size and these pants are practically falling off. I'm lucky that I don't have kids to cook for. My husband is very supportive.

The only thing I might add to all the previous great info, is maybe weighing yourself everyday isn't such a great idea. I've heard (in the past many years I've tried to diet), you should only weigh yourself once a week.

lol -- I'm the other way -- I'm afraid to get on the scale. :) For the last 3 years, work has a "Biggest Loser" starting in September. I'll join this year and get weighed then.

There's tons of great info and recipes in the threads if you read back.

I try to cook something new on the weekends. Sundays I try to cook a batch of veggies for lunches thru the week. I have a huge salad with beans for dinners. Maybe a cut-up fruit salad for a snack after dinner. A few walnuts for snacks at work.

"Try" is the main word. lol. And if I allow myself to eat something not on the plan. I (try) not to beat myself up about it.

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One thing is you've got to stop beating yourself up. You did not gain TWO pounds of fat overnight because you ate a sandwich and fries the day before. Nor will you lose TWO pounds of fat in one day because you stuck to a healthy eating plan and exercised. So strive to eat well as much as you can and don't be so reliant on that scale. Having said that, I weigh in "officially" once a week and often do sneek peeks during the week, but it doesn't rule me, it's another tool I use to continue my plan, which is being revised constantly. Also, you need to stop comparing yourself to others, everyone is different, their metabolism is different, body style is different, may have different kinds of exercise etc. etc. The only thing that matters is how you are doing. Maybe you can give other people tips on things you like, or maybe you can pick up some tips from others, and you can put together a local, in-person support network but comparing your weight loss to other's weight loss is counterproductive.

There is a member on SP whose tag line was something "I didn't get into this mess overnight and I'm not going to get out of it overnight" - I know that was not it exactly, but her point was that she ate poorly for years, and it took decades to gain the weight, and no matter how much she wanted it, the weight was not going to come off in a few weeks or even months. And yes, the yo-yo dieting does mess around with your metabolism too. Give it time. Five days, 11 days, that is not nearly enough time to say whether this is working or not. Set a goal, maybe not "I'm going to eat this way forever" but maybe "I'm going to eat this way for 6 months or 3 months" or whatever you feel like you can comfortably commit to doing. Then DO it. Know that at the end of the period, you will be able to sit back and analyze how you feel (physical and emotional health,) your taste buds, your weight and whatever else you want to review, and if it's not working for you, then you can move on. But please do give it a reasonable length of time to let your tastebuds adjust and let your body get in sync with the additional exercise and different types of foods. I know it's frustrating, but I believe that if you do that, at the end of the period, you will see all kinds of positive changes which have just "snuck" up on you and you will be motivated to continue.

Take a more active role. You say you're not much of a cook, your husband does the cooking. Well, start cooking. There are thousands of online you tube videos for ETL foods, raw foods (which fit the ETL plan) the FOK (which fit the ETL mindset) - do a little surfing and find something which sounds good to you. Then make it. Find foods which fit the whole foods, plant based thinking, and try those. I found something which saved me in the early days. I am a major chocoholic (although not nearly as much now as I used to be pre ETL) and I found these chocolate tarts made by Hail Merry. They are completely vegan and they are rich and delicious. I would cut these tarts into small pieces and allow myself a small piece every day. Find something like that (and it doesn't have to be food, it could be making time for a manicure or a massage or whatever) I go in phases, sometimes life is so hectic and busy that I don't have time to think about food so I go on automatic pilot. Steel cut oats with strawberries or a green smoothie for breakfast. Giant salad at lunch (don't care where I am, I can pretty much get a reasonable salad anywhere) and beans/legumes/lentils with more greens for dinner. Other times I have more time and will experiment so that I don't get bored.

Finally, DO get to the doctor and get yourself checked out. Hopefully you will find there is nothing serious wrong (excess weight does cause problems, you know that, so changing your diet will improve that greatly) - that would be the best news. Again, frustrating, but as you've said, you've been overweight for many, many years and you have done the yo-yo dieting, so it's going to take some time to get your system back on track. I guarantee, if you start eating healthier, you will feel better, and if you will likely be able to lose that weight in WAY less time than it took to put it on.

Good luck!

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8/19/13 1:16 A

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Thank you! I will look up that recipe! I live in Seattle so soup season is all year round! Thank you for your kind words about the detox as well. I needed to hear this.

After eating a junky meal last night, I woke up with a terrible cold. I'm hoping that hopping back on the band wagon tomorrow that it will be a short-lived cold.

Thank you. The support here is wonderful.

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The detox time hit me about the same time as it hit you. It was difficult, I'm not going to lie. I was down right mean at times. I'm usually a very upbeat person. I pushed through some how and didn't eat bacon. I still don't know how. I think it was the soup. I know that it is summer but the most filling and the most easy thing I made was a vegan kentucky burgoo. I substituted all the meat for beans and added in some veggies. I put it all in a crock pot over night and had soup for days on end. It was so good and I kept full with the beans. I have it on spark recipes if you'd like to check it out. I've made it a couple of times, each time when I was getting tired of salads. Secret ingredient I forgot to mention in the soup is collard greens. I've lost 55lbs and now that I've made it over the hump I believe I'm changed for life. I feel like a new person with a new life. As a matter of fact I just stopped here before adding a new blog speaking of how grateful I feel about ETL. You can do this, it can change your life! Nothing tastes as good as healthy feels after you get through the detox.

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That makes me feel so much better. Thank you. Tomorrow is a new day - I will go back to what I was doing before I asked for help on Facebook. Thank you so much. I just finished looking through the photos and the announcements. They are very helpful!

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well I have been a vegetarian for over 20 years but all that means is that I don't eat meat(no fish either), it doesn't mean I ate healthy. Cheese pizza, spaghetti, chips, cookies, ect are all vegetarian...lol

And I wasn't eating alot of veggies, oh I ate veggies but not enough, I really didn't think about eating veggies verses eating junk until one day it just started to hit me that hey if one wants to be healthy they can't keep eating junk food...I just wish I would learn my lesson to sooner.

What I started to do is eat one new veggie a week along with the veggies I did like (and I had recipes too) and eventually I started liking lots of new veggies. One thing I learned was that veggies I thought I didn't like was because they were in a can and I love those veggies fresh.

ok I was doing well and then the junk keeps creeping back in. I'm still not crazy about beans but I'm at the tolerate stage (used to hate them). And I'm not crazy about smoothies and salads but I'm getting used to them(salads more than smoothies). I'm really starting to hate cheese and it makes me feel yucky after I eat it (and boy I'm feeling yucky right now). The only veggie that I don't like so far is mustard greens(boy are they strong) and I'm not fond of peaches.

It defiantly takes awhile to get used to eating this way, I love to eat the veggies (cause I hate meat) but what is really hard its the chopping and chopping and chopping and then the cooking...cause I am not a cook and boy you really have to do alot of cooking but I'm getting better.

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yikes may be you don't want to use the butter buds

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www.butterbuds.com/faq/

I particularly like the last bullet. What a bunch of hooey.

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Butter Buds?

Don't know what they are. Sorry. But for anything I wonder about, I ask myself,

1. It it adding micronutrients to my body? phyto nutrients(great) as opposed to macronutrients like carbs, proteins, fats.
2. Does it have ingredients I can't pronounce or have no idea what they are? (avoid)
3. If it has fats, are they in the food naturally, (great) or were they added during manufacturing? (avoid)
4. If it is adding to my enjoyment of a food by adding something interesting, but has no other redeeming features, can I come up with something to add that will add nutrients to that food?

example: Olive oil rubbed into kale to make kale chips
1. Is the olive oil adding needed nutrition? no
2. Additives? None
3.does the kale have natural fats no, olive oil is added.
3. Adding to Enjoyment--YES--olive oil makes the kale krunchy, allows me to sprinkle with herbs and spices that make it tasty.

4: substitution: kale krunch: no oil, no chemical additives. Krunch, delicious. The product is sprayed with a veggies sauce and dehydrated. No oil needed. It is manufactured, but made totally with organic vegetables and nuts. They are rather pricey, but I'm experimenting with the list of ingredients to make a veggie marinade for my things I dehydrate.

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See, that's what I'm talking about. 4 hours of strolling is very different from 4 hours on the treadmill walking 4 miles an hour. or doing zumba for 4 hours. 4 hours of zumba would lost a pound a week with no diet.

I think you said you were doing zumba.

I am also wondering if you have seen a doctor lately. Is your vitamin D and thyroid where it should be?

Did i have trouble when I started. yes. You might see some of that. I was dieting without Fuhrman last August - October. And then started trying to do the ETL plan.

Let me just say it is a LOT easier for me now. I didn't grow up with much fruit and veggies. Meat and potatoes and one canned mushy veggie like asparagus was out nightly meal. And then home made pizza on Friday.

Until they invented McDonalds.

There are still many veggies I haven't eaten or that I'm still developing a taste for.

I loved cooking when I started. But this knocked the wind out of my sails. Because I no longer was to cook the things I used to do the way I used to do them. i have made many changes for my health. Were they all easy? No.

Most of them weren't. I started out jumping right in trying to do everything. I had a hard time limiting bread stuffs and yogurt. Red meat was easy, and really all meats, unless I wasn't getting in the nuts and legumes. Then I found myself wanting eggs or cheese or roasted chicken.

BTW, on the strict plan (equate to the 6 week plan) his new book allows one serving of animal products a week, which might be 1 egg or 3 oz chicken or fish, or a cup of lowfat yogurt or an ounce of low fat cheese.

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if butter buds helps you to eat more veggies and your don't have to eat alot of fattening butter then go for it, you can always change later on.

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Can we use Butter Buds. I would think not but when checking the label, it looked ok to me

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Hello, Ladies. Thank you VERY much for your responses. I was researching the kid's book just a few days ago and was wondering if I should get the hard copy or just download it on my kindle. I DEFINITELY need it! I am a teacher, too! That is one of the reasons I was so desperate to drop just 10 pounds - I need to fit into my slacks and skirts before school starts on the 4th. I am comfortable with it going slow after that - but I guess my first graders won't care what I look like.

I will start reading the items you told me about now. Thank you so much.

Did anyone else not enjoy eating like this at the beginning? I keep salivating over everyone else's food. I don't mind when I see results - but it's really hard when my pants fit exactly the same even when I'm exercising 4 hours a week (that's a lot for me - I used to do 0). Thank you!

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The kid book is:

Disease–Proof Your Child
Feeding Kids Right

Let's see if THIS link works:

www.drfuhrman.com/shop/books.aspx#dp
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Well first off you are most likely in a detox faze...anytime you radically change the way you eat, from eating junk/processed/animal products and eating fruits and veggies your body is going to react and it could last a couple of weeks but once you get used to eating fruits and veggies then you will start feeling alot better.

Don't worry it will get better. Everyone goes through the "oh screw it" I'm eating the pizza (me today and oh boy I feel awful). Just get back on it the next meal. We have been eating the SAD way for a looong time so we can't expect to eat healthy over night.

Feel good about yourself when your eating better more than your not. You went on alot of diets and failed and there is a good reason....they don't work...it has to be a lifestyle change for you and whole family.

Fuhrman has a book about feeding kids but I can't remember the name. But the best way to get the kids to eat healthier is to teach them why it important to eat healthy by getting books at the library that teaches them about health and doing activities on this subject. i can help you out if you need ideas (I'm a teacher).


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And yes, YOU CAN.

There is a great summary of the plan in the Announcements section of the team page.
Print that out if you haven't yet. Click on Announcements, under the Huddle Wall.

And in Photos, I've posted a couple of planning sheets that might help you.

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You have sent us a VERY detailed explanation of what you are doing.

Your plan looked great to me before others started putting in their 2 cents worth.
1 pound of raw veg, 1 pound of cooked veg, MINIMUM. You are not limited with those. 4 fruits, minimum. 1/2 to 1 cup legumes, minimum. 1 ounce nuts /seeds. 1 T flax seeds.

Now. Breathe. You are not on a low calorie diet like Medifast or Atkins or Cambridge or Ayds or the Grapefruit diet, or the one that got me started: the tomato juice, hard boiled egg and zwieback diet. By the way, I got very sick after most of those. Gall bladder surgery after a powdered shake diet. And cancer after another. I'm through with low calorie, get it done fast diets.

I want health, I want it for the rest of my life. And it takes a while.

There is something to be said about having your calories support your activity. It sounds like you might not be bringing in enough calories for your activity. Do you track what you eat, and your fitness, so you can judge that. That's the only way I could know if you were supporting your activity.

YOU MUST have the nuts/seeds with the raw produce. That is your source of fats. And your body can't get the nutrients out of them without fats. Dr. Fuhrman says this is NOT a low fat diet. He prefers you get your fats from nuts and seeds with your salads. And they can be blended into your dressings.

Give yourself some time. Relax with it. Check out the exercises I posted in the resources here. They are a set of 10 food exercises to help you ease into the program.

In my notes there for 3 Steps to Incredible Health (Fuhrman) he says he doesn't expect us to be perfect, but to move toward good nutrition.

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I did ETL for 11 days before I crashed and burned. I want to continue, but not sure if I'm putting myself through hardship for nothing. I know that my taste buds will change and everyone says it's delicious - but I'm not there yet. For me, this way of eating is HARD. Let me back up a bit and explain a little about myself.

I started gaining weight when I was 12 as a way to feel better about my sister dying and I've been dieting ever since (22 years ago). Up until I gave birth to my first child, I was fairly successful at any diet I chose and the weight would stay off for at least 6 months or so (or until I couldn't withstand McDonald's anymore).

After I gave birth things changed. Any diet I did would work for 10-15 days and then stop. I've done WW for 2 months even though I only lost 7 pounds in the first 2 weeks. Nothing after that. I've done Atkins with the same results. The lemon-cayenne juice fast. Cycling carbohydrates. I did Medifast for 3 months - $900 and I lost a total of 13 pounds while my friends in the same time period lost 23-47 pounds. I've been a member of at least 3 different dieting groups on Spark alone - one of which was the HCG diet - though I never got the guts to actually do it. I realize that I have completely messed up my metabolism and had basically decided that I was just going to be 75+ pounds overweight for the rest of my life. I say "plus" because my weight just continues to rise - never really stays the same even though I eat the same amount and type of foods (granted- they are the wrong type of foods, but they were consistent so why was I gaining?)

Anyway, my neighbor who knows of my struggles started losing weight and one day gave my the book ETL and asked me to read it. In 4 months she's lost 55 pounds and she's 20 years older than me so I thought I'd try it. My hopes were high and I was motivated. She took me shopping, showed me what to buy and got me started.

I was psyched! In 5 days I'd lost 7 pounds! I started Zumba 4 days a week and I had energy to do even more. Yay!

And then it stopped. Just like all the other diets - except instead of the typical 2 week mark, it was happening at 5 days. I thought "no big deal, it will go down again . . ." Except it hasn't. In the last 6 days my weight has gone up a half pound each day except for 2 days where it went down half a pound.

I had joined the ETL group on Facebook to help keep me motivated. I posted my daily food intake and asked what I was doing wrong:

Breakfast Smoothie: flax seeds, coconut water, whatever available fruit I had until it reached 24 ounces
Lunch: Big salad with lots of spinach and other greens in addition to tomato, cauliflower, carrots, snap peas, vinegar dressing with no oil, sugar or salt. There were also 1 ounce of raw unsalted cashews, half a box of beans and one fourth of an avocado.
Dinner: One flax seed oat roll up with no fat refried beans (there is no oil listed in the ingredients), lettuce, tomato, cilantro, organic no sugar or salt added salsa.
Some days I added a green smoothie with my lunch - 2 big handfuls of spinach with pineapple. Some days I have watermelon or honeydew with lunch or dinner.

No snacks. No oil. 2-4 17 ounce waterbottles depending on if I do Zumba.

People on Facebook said many things: too much fruit, too much beans, too much water, not enough water, you're gaining muscle, no you're not gaining muscle, too many nuts, too much avocado, you need to add greens to your smoothies. . . .

I felt very confused. So the next day I added greens to my morning smoothie and took out the oat roll up I had with dinner. My weight went up half a pound.

The next day I took out the nuts, avocado, and the roll up. I stopped the fruit with lunch and dinner too. The next morning I dropped 1/2 a pound. So I did it again the next day. I went up 1/2 a pound.

Now we are up to yesterday (Saturday). My brother, mom and my kids (who are not ETL - in fact my children are actively fighting it - age 4 and 9) went on a family outing. I had a smoothie with greens for breakfast and packed a lunch. I ate my lunch and drooled over their chicken pesta pasta salad. I was grumpy. I was tired. I had zero energy. My mom and brother kept asking me what was wrong but I had no answer - I just felt really down and hopeless. We decided to go on a hike. I thought the exercise would lift my spirits - it didn't. I just felt blah. We wound up being gone much longer than we had anticipated and I ran out of the other fruits and veggies I had packed and my kids were "starving" they said. We went out to eat and I figured I would order a salad. I drooled all over the menu and thought "screw it!" I ordered decaf coffee with sugar and cream and a french dip with french fries. I loved every forbidden second of it. Afterwords I had tons of energy and I was so happy. My kids said they hadn't seen me that happy in a long time. That made me sad.

I woke up today with a 2 pound gain. I expected it. I drank my smoothie and figured I had had my first 20% off plan and wouldn't do it again until I had dropped 10 pounds. But then I took my kids to a friends birthday and wound up having a hot dog. Then I came home and had popcorn with a lot of salt on it. I feel guilty. I've spent the last 2 hours reading posts on this forum and the one on Facebook. Everyone talks about how good they feel and how cravings go away and how good the food tastes and I wonder: What the hell is wrong with me? Why can't I lose weight on diets that seem to work for so many others?

I don't know what to do. I certainly need to do something. I feel confused about what I should and shouldn't be eating. I think my blood sugar went too low and I don't think I ate enough calories, but when I posted that question on Facebook no one responded. How do I get over this hurdle? I so desperately want to lose weight and actually take my kids to the pool and wear a swimsuit. Maybe even let someone take my picture once in a while.

I read ETL and I plan to start reading it again tonight. Maybe I'll find something I missed.

Miscellaneous: My husband started ETL on the same day I did and has lost 10 pounds even though he continues to drink alcohol. I weigh 197 and am 5'3''. I have insomnia for which I have a doctor's appointment on Tuesday. I've had my thyroid tested but the doc said it was normal. My dad is diabetic and heavily overweight, but my brothers and mom are toothpicks and complain about how hard it is to gain weight. My daughter is addicted to low nutrient carbs and is a little overweight. I'm scared for her and want to set a better example. I don't know a thing about cooking (husband does it), but am willing to learn. Am getting tired of salads.

I want to have energy, feel good and lose weight. What do I do? Help, please?



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